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== 87v a == | == 87v a == | ||
| − | === 87v a Latin === | + | <!-- === 87v a Latin === |
'''SEQUUNTUR VARII''' usus ictus eius q[ui] à limis oculis appellationem, adeptus, nobis strabo dicitur | '''SEQUUNTUR VARII''' usus ictus eius q[ui] à limis oculis appellationem, adeptus, nobis strabo dicitur | ||
| − | '''Is''' ictus habitus gravis et severus est, nam hostem vi obruit ictibus et punctionibus, formaturque ense converso: quo circa multi Athleticae magistri hunc ignorant, tum etiam aratri nescij prorsus. | + | '''Is''' ictus habitus gravis et severus est, nam hostem vi obruit ictibus et punctionibus, formaturque ense converso: quo circa multi Athleticae magistri hunc ignorant,tum etiam aratri nescij prorsus. |
Eum habitum vel ictum hac conditione exerceto, Si in conspectum adversarij processeris, sinistrum proponas pedem. ensem humero dextro admotum contineas, et si eveniat, ut hostis é superné feriat versus caput tuum, ense converso, sinistrum dextro adiungas pedi, atque acie brevi porrectim brachijs extentis, super ipsius gladio contra ipsius ictum vel faciem vel pectus ferias, at si adversarius hac astutia usus; ensem tuum non contigerit, verum inferné transmittat, tum contra ipsius visum brachijs porrectis mucronem porrigens resistas, et inde laedere adversarius te nequibit, neque traiectione uti. | Eum habitum vel ictum hac conditione exerceto, Si in conspectum adversarij processeris, sinistrum proponas pedem. ensem humero dextro admotum contineas, et si eveniat, ut hostis é superné feriat versus caput tuum, ense converso, sinistrum dextro adiungas pedi, atque acie brevi porrectim brachijs extentis, super ipsius gladio contra ipsius ictum vel faciem vel pectus ferias, at si adversarius hac astutia usus; ensem tuum non contigerit, verum inferné transmittat, tum contra ipsius visum brachijs porrectis mucronem porrigens resistas, et inde laedere adversarius te nequibit, neque traiectione uti. | ||
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=== 87v a English === | === 87v a English === | ||
| − | Here follows a variation using his thrust which is called the side-eye thrust, having inherited it, it is called the squinter by us. | + | Here follows a variation using his thrust which is called the side-eye thrust, |
| + | having inherited it, | ||
| + | it is called the squinter by us. | ||
| − | This strike is a serious and strict | + | This strike is a serious and strict skill, for it overwhelms the enemy with strength of strokes and thrusts, and it is shaped by converting the sword: for which reason many masters of Athletics are ignorant concerning this, then again, they are entirely ignorant of the plow. |
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| + | Employ the skill or thrust using these conditions: If you advance into view of the adversary, set the left foot before. you should contain the sword with a movement, and if it happens, in order that the opponent strikes from above toward your head, turning the sword, you should join the left to the right foot (?), and the arms having been stretched out [and] the long edge extended, strike his sword above against his strike or face or chest, and if the adversary uses this trick; your sword now contacts, in truth it goes across underneath,then you oppose extending the sword against his face the shoulder having been extended, and thence the adversary cannot strike you, nor use the transfer. | ||
| + | --> | ||
=== 87v a Latin (Sandbox) === | === 87v a Latin (Sandbox) === | ||
# '''SEQUUNTUR VARII''' | # '''SEQUUNTUR VARII''' | ||
# usus ictus eius q[ui] à limis oculis appellationem, | # usus ictus eius q[ui] à limis oculis appellationem, | ||
# adeptus, nobis strabo dicitur | # adeptus, nobis strabo dicitur | ||
| − | + | #: | |
# '''Is''' ictus habitus gravis et severus est, | # '''Is''' ictus habitus gravis et severus est, | ||
# nam hostem vi obruit ictibus et punctionibus, | # nam hostem vi obruit ictibus et punctionibus, | ||
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# quo circa multi Athleticae magistri hunc ignorant, | # quo circa multi Athleticae magistri hunc ignorant, | ||
# tum etiam aratri nescij prorsus. | # tum etiam aratri nescij prorsus. | ||
| − | + | #: | |
| − | # | + | # Eum habitum vel ictum hac conditione exerceto, |
# Si in conspectum adversarij processeris, | # Si in conspectum adversarij processeris, | ||
# sinistrum proponas pedem. | # sinistrum proponas pedem. | ||
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# Here follows a variation | # Here follows a variation | ||
| − | # | + | # the use of this strike, which is called the side-eye, |
# having inherited it, it is called the squinter by us. | # having inherited it, it is called the squinter by us. | ||
| − | + | #: | |
| − | # This strike is a serious and strict | + | # This strike is a serious and strict skill, |
| − | # for it overwhelms the enemy with strength of strokes and | + | # for it overwhelms the enemy with strength of strokes and thrusts, |
# and it is shaped by inverting the sword: | # and it is shaped by inverting the sword: | ||
| − | # for which reason many masters of Athletics are ignorant | + | # for which reason many masters of Athletics are ignorant concerning this, |
| − | # then again, they are entirely | + | # then again, they are entirely unfamiliar the plow. |
| − | + | #: | |
| − | # Practice the | + | # Practice the skill or thrust using these conditions: |
# If you advance into view of the adversary, | # If you advance into view of the adversary, | ||
# set the left foot before. | # set the left foot before. | ||
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=== 87v a notes === | === 87v a notes === | ||
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| + | * two phrases for one concept habitum or ictum (not in german)and aren’t those a mess to translate | ||
| + | * also, parallel construction for different targets (two out of three in german) | ||
== 87v b == | == 87v b == | ||
| − | === 87v b Latin === | + | <!-- === 87v b Latin === |
'''ALIUS HABITUS.''' | '''ALIUS HABITUS.''' | ||
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Another gesture follows. | Another gesture follows. | ||
| − | If you would stand fast against the enemy, holding the sword near to the right upper arm, But he stands against [you] in the Plow guard, and threatens a lower | + | If you would stand fast against the enemy, holding the sword near to the right upper arm, But he stands against [you] in the Plow guard, and threatens a lower thrust, then YOU sending forward the extended short edge above, strike the blow called side eye, and from there drive/thrust the point either against his face or his breast, and if you used this method, the adversary cannot overtake you with lower thrusting. --> |
=== 87v b Latin (Sandbox) === | === 87v b Latin (Sandbox) === | ||
# '''ALIUS HABITUS.''' | # '''ALIUS HABITUS.''' | ||
| − | + | #: | |
# '''SEQUITUR''' alius habitus. | # '''SEQUITUR''' alius habitus. | ||
# Si contra hostem consistas, | # Si contra hostem consistas, | ||
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=== 87v b English (Sandbox) === | === 87v b English (Sandbox) === | ||
| − | # Another | + | # Another aspect of this skill[^3] |
| − | + | #: | |
| − | # Another | + | # Another aspect of this skill follows. |
# If you would stand fast against the enemy, | # If you would stand fast against the enemy, | ||
# holding the sword near to the right upper arm, | # holding the sword near to the right upper arm, | ||
# But he stands against [you] in the Plow guard, | # But he stands against [you] in the Plow guard, | ||
| − | # and threatens a lower | + | # and threatens a lower thrust, |
# then YOU sending forward the extended short edge above, | # then YOU sending forward the extended short edge above, | ||
# strike the blow called side eye, | # strike the blow called side eye, | ||
# and from there drive/thrust the point either against his face or his breast, | # and from there drive/thrust the point either against his face or his breast, | ||
# and if you used this method, | # and if you used this method, | ||
| − | # the adversary cannot overtake you with lower | + | # the adversary cannot overtake you with lower thrusting. |
=== 87v b notes === | === 87v b notes === | ||
| − | [^3]: | + | [^3]: This is the first time "habitus" is used for "stueck [stuckh, stück]". |
parallel construction, two targets, present in german | parallel construction, two targets, present in german | ||
Latest revision as of 18:42, 26 July 2022
Munich 87v / PDF page 20
Contents
Missing Zettel verses from Dresden 94v (26)
German
- Schiller einbricht
- was puffel schlecht oder sticht
- wer wechsel trawt
- schiller In daraus beraupt •
English (Fritz)
- Schieler breaks
- what buffalo strikes or thrusts.
- A threat with a Wechsel
- is bereft with a Schielhau.
87v a
87v a Latin (Sandbox)
- SEQUUNTUR VARII
- usus ictus eius q[ui] à limis oculis appellationem,
- adeptus, nobis strabo dicitur
- Is ictus habitus gravis et severus est,
- nam hostem vi obruit ictibus et punctionibus,
- formaturque ense converso:
- quo circa multi Athleticae magistri hunc ignorant,
- tum etiam aratri nescij prorsus.
- Eum habitum vel ictum hac conditione exerceto,
- Si in conspectum adversarij processeris,
- sinistrum proponas pedem.
- ensem humero dextro admotum contineas,
- et si eveniat,
- ut hostis é superné feriat versus caput tuum,
- ense converso,
- sinistrum dextro adiungas pedi,
- atque acie brevi porrectim brachijs extentis,
- super ipsius gladio contra ipsius ictum vel faciem vel pectus ferias,
- at si adversarius hac astutia usus;
- ensem tuum non contigerit,
- verum inferné transmittat,
- tum contra ipsius visum brachijs porrectis mucronem porrigens resistas,
- et inde laedere adversarius te nequibit,
- neque traiectione uti.
87v a English (Sandbox)
- Here follows a variation
- the use of this strike, which is called the side-eye,
- having inherited it, it is called the squinter by us.
- This strike is a serious and strict skill,
- for it overwhelms the enemy with strength of strokes and thrusts,
- and it is shaped by inverting the sword:
- for which reason many masters of Athletics are ignorant concerning this,
- then again, they are entirely unfamiliar the plow.
- Practice the skill or thrust using these conditions:
- If you advance into view of the adversary,
- set the left foot before.
- you should contain the sword with a movement,
- and if it happens,
- in order that the opponent strikes from above against your head,
- inverting the sword,
- you should join the left to the right foot (?),
- and the arms having been stretched out [and] the long edge extended,
- strike his sword above against his strike or face or chest,
- and if the adversary uses this trick;
- your sword now contacts,
- in truth it goes across underneath,
- then you resist[,] extending the sword against his face the shoulder having been extended,
- and thence the adversary cannot strike you,
- nor use the transfer.
87v a notes
- two phrases for one concept habitum or ictum (not in german)and aren’t those a mess to translate
- also, parallel construction for different targets (two out of three in german)
87v b
87v b Latin (Sandbox)
- ALIUS HABITUS.
- SEQUITUR alius habitus.
- Si contra hostem consistas,
- iuxta humerum dextrum ensem tenens,
- is autem in custodia Aratri contrà consistat,
- minaturque punctionem infernam,
- tunc tu superné porrectim aciem brevem praemittens,
- ictum à limis oculis nominatum ferias,
- atque mucronem vel contra visum ipsius vel pectus inde impellito,
- et ea ratione si fueris usus,
- adversarius inferné te pungendo adprehendere nequibit.
87v b English (Sandbox)
- Another aspect of this skill[^3]
- Another aspect of this skill follows.
- If you would stand fast against the enemy,
- holding the sword near to the right upper arm,
- But he stands against [you] in the Plow guard,
- and threatens a lower thrust,
- then YOU sending forward the extended short edge above,
- strike the blow called side eye,
- and from there drive/thrust the point either against his face or his breast,
- and if you used this method,
- the adversary cannot overtake you with lower thrusting.
87v b notes
[^3]: This is the first time "habitus" is used for "stueck [stuckh, stück]".
parallel construction, two targets, present in german
