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The '''MS Bibl. 2465''' is a [[nationality::German]] [[fencing manual]] created by [[Joachim Meyer]] in 1561.<ref>Dated on [[:file:MS Bibl. 2465 IVv.jpg|folio Ⅳv]].</ref> The original currently rests in the holdings of [[Bayerisches Nationalmuseum]] in Munich, Germany. This manuscript, which may be Meyer's earliest work, was created for Georg Johann Ⅰ, Count Palatine of Veldenz.<ref>According to the dedication on [[:file:MS Bibl. 2465 IIIr.jpg|folio Ⅲr]].</ref> It contains lessons on the use of the [[sword]], [[dussack]], [[rapier]], [[dagger]], and [[polearm]]s, all of which would also be covered in the substantially larger book he would publish in 1570, ''[[Gründtliche Beschreibung der Kunst des Fechtens (Joachim Meyer)|Gründtliche Beschreibung der Kunst des Fechtens]]''; unlike that book, this manuscript also treats [[armored fencing]].
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The '''MS Bibl. 2465''' is a [[nationality::German]] [[fencing manual]] created by [[Joachim Meyer]] in 1561.<ref>Dated on [[:file:MS Bibl. 2465 IVv.jpg|folio Ⅳv]].</ref> The original currently rests in the holdings of [[Bayerisches Nationalmuseum]] in Munich, Germany. This manuscript, which may be Meyer's earliest work, was created for Georg Johann Ⅰ, Count Palatine of Veldenz.<ref>According to the dedication on [[:file:MS Bibl. 2465 IIIr.jpg|folio Ⅲr]].</ref> Until recently, it was believed to be lost,<ref>[[Jens P. Kleinau]]. "[http://talhoffer.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/1561-joachim-meyer-dedicated-a-fencing-book-to-the-pfalzgrafen-of-pfalz-veldenz-2/ 1561 Joachim Meyer dedicated a fencing book to the Pfalzgrafen of Pfalz-Veldenz]". ''Hans Talhoffer ~ as seen by Jens P. Kleinau''. 04 July 2011. Retrieved 14 February 2015.</ref> but its location by [[Olivier Dupuis]] was announced in June 2021.
  
Until recently, this manuscript was believed to be lost,<ref>[[Jens P. Kleinau]]. "[http://talhoffer.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/1561-joachim-meyer-dedicated-a-fencing-book-to-the-pfalzgrafen-of-pfalz-veldenz-2/ 1561 Joachim Meyer dedicated a fencing book to the Pfalzgrafen of Pfalz-Veldenz]". ''Hans Talhoffer ~ as seen by Jens P. Kleinau''. 04 July 2011. Retrieved 14 February 2015.</ref> but its location by [[Olivier Dupuis]] was announced in June 2021. The relationship between the teachings in this manuscript and Meyer's later works has yet to be determined.
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This manuscript contains lessons on the use of the [[sword]], [[dusack]], [[rapier]], [[dagger]], and [[polearm]]s, all of which would also be covered in the substantially larger book he would publish in 1570, ''[[Gründtliche Beschreibung der Kunst des Fechtens (Joachim Meyer)|Gründtliche Beschreibung der Kunst des Fechtens]]''; unlike that book, this manuscript also treats [[armored fencing]]. The text of the sword, dusack, and rapier would be reproduced with some alterations in the manuscript Meyer prepared for Otto von Solms a few years later ([[Joachim Meyers Fäktbok (MS A.4º.2)|MS A.4º.2]]).
  
 
== Provenance ==
 
== Provenance ==
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! [[Joachim Meyer|101r - 112r]]
 
| [[Armored fencing]] by [[Joachim Meyer]]
 
| [[Armored fencing]] by [[Joachim Meyer]]
  
 
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! [[Joachim Meyer|Ⅴr - Ⅹv]]
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| Table of contents by [[Joachim Meyer]]
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Latest revision as of 15:29, 28 July 2024

Joachim Meyers Fechtbuch
MS Bibl. 2465, Bayerisches Nationalmuseum
Munich, Germany

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Frontispiece and dedication, ff Ⅱv - Ⅲr
HagedornJMMLeng
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Type Fencing manual
Date 1561
Language(s) Early New High German
Author(s) Joachim Meyer
Scribe(s) Joachim Meyer (?)
Illustrator(s) Unknown
Patron Georg Johann Ⅰ, Count Palatine of Veldenz
Material Paper, in a leather binding
Size 112 folia (290 mm × 200 mm)
Format Double-sided; text with scattered illustrations
Script Secretary
Identified Olivier Dupuis
Treatise scans

The MS Bibl. 2465 is a German fencing manual created by Joachim Meyer in 1561.[1] The original currently rests in the holdings of Bayerisches Nationalmuseum in Munich, Germany. This manuscript, which may be Meyer's earliest work, was created for Georg Johann Ⅰ, Count Palatine of Veldenz.[2] Until recently, it was believed to be lost,[3] but its location by Olivier Dupuis was announced in June 2021.

This manuscript contains lessons on the use of the sword, dusack, rapier, dagger, and polearms, all of which would also be covered in the substantially larger book he would publish in 1570, Gründtliche Beschreibung der Kunst des Fechtens; unlike that book, this manuscript also treats armored fencing. The text of the sword, dusack, and rapier would be reproduced with some alterations in the manuscript Meyer prepared for Otto von Solms a few years later (MS A.4º.2).

Provenance

Contents

Ⅱr - Ⅳv Dedication by Joachim Meyer
1r - 21v Long sword by Joachim Meyer
22r - 48r Dussack by Joachim Meyer
48r - 66v Side sword by Joachim Meyer
67r - 75v Dagger by Joachim Meyer
78r - 100v Polearms by Joachim Meyer
101r - 112r Armored fencing by Joachim Meyer
112v - 115v Table of contents

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Inside cover
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Additional Resources

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References

  1. Dated on folio Ⅳv.
  2. According to the dedication on folio Ⅲr.
  3. Jens P. Kleinau. "1561 Joachim Meyer dedicated a fencing book to the Pfalzgrafen of Pfalz-Veldenz". Hans Talhoffer ~ as seen by Jens P. Kleinau. 04 July 2011. Retrieved 14 February 2015.

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