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Such a carry of the sword gives me four plays to make:&emsp;<br/>
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Carrying the sword like this gives me four plays to make:&emsp;<br/>
 
I could strike with point and edge without fail,&emsp;<br/>
 
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And also throw someone from horseback or take his sword.&emsp;<br/>
 
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Seldom are these things failures to me.&emsp;<br/>
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These things are rarely failures to me.&emsp;<br/>
 
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{{par|b}} Straightforward in opposition, I cause you great pains.
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The one fleeing is unable to defend his own body.<ref>We are working under the assumption that the Latin translator is writing about the figure on the left, instead of the crowned figure. While it is clear that the Italian refers to the crowned figure, the Latin includes nothing about turning, or that this turn is the only option for defense. This is supported by 'Qui' in the second line, which has the 'ego = I' correction from a later hand.</ref>
  
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{{par|r}} That method of carrying surely moves the sword to four plays.
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And I strike you straight on with the [sharp] point.
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And the limb cuts the openings with a cut.
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And lacking your sword,  you will again obviously depart from your seat.<ref>Note that the order of the 4 options differs from the original Italian due to the order of verb tenses in the Latin.</ref>
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That method rarely disappoints a person.
 
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Latest revision as of 19:49, 29 October 2024

Latin 03r

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Rectus in oppositum faciam tibi forte dolores.
[1]Qui fugiens proprium nequeo defendere corpus.


Quattuor iste modus gestandi nempe mucronem
Ne movet ad ludos. et acute[2] cuspide prorsus
Te feriam. caedetque artus cesura patentes
Atque iterum de sede tua manifestus abibis
Ense carens. et raro hominem modus iste fefellit[3]

Italian

Fleeing, I cannot make any other defense, 
So I turn myself to the right and will make you offense. 

[30a-b] Fuçando non posso far altra deffesa
E se me volto del drito farote offesa

Carrying the sword like this gives me four plays to make: 
I could strike with point and edge without fail, 
And also throw someone from horseback or take his sword. 
These things are rarely failures to me. 

[31b-a] Tal portar de spada quatro zoghi me fa far
De punta e de taglio ferir posso sença fallar
Anchora butar da cavallo e tore de spade[4]
Rare volte queste cosse me son fallade

English 03r

Straightforward in opposition, I cause you great pains.
The one fleeing is unable to defend his own body.[5]

That method of carrying surely moves the sword to four plays.
And I strike you straight on with the [sharp] point.
And the limb cuts the openings with a cut.
And lacking your sword, you will again obviously depart from your seat.[6]
That method rarely disappoints a person.

  1. ↑ Added later: "ego".
  2. ↑ This word was obliterated somehow (“et” and “cesura” both show uncorrected damage) but has been written over by a later hand in similarly-colored ink. Further, someone has tried to write something above it, perhaps a French equivalent—the superscript is unreadable, but the second word, above cuspide, appears to end in “te” and could be “pointe”. The superscript above “acute” may have been in the D1 or F hand, but not enough is clear. There may have been a superscript above mucronem that was erased, although the remaining strokes look like they may have suffered the same damage as the rest of the page. None of the superscripts are clear enough to certainly identify the hands.
  3. ↑ A bracket, similar to the enjambment bracket, hangs off the last line.
  4. ↑ Corrected from "a" to "e".
  5. ↑ We are working under the assumption that the Latin translator is writing about the figure on the left, instead of the crowned figure. While it is clear that the Italian refers to the crowned figure, the Latin includes nothing about turning, or that this turn is the only option for defense. This is supported by 'Qui' in the second line, which has the 'ego = I' correction from a later hand.
  6. ↑ Note that the order of the 4 options differs from the original Italian due to the order of verb tenses in the Latin.

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