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| − | Here begins the fencing with the dagger | + | <section begin="1"/>'''Here begins the fencing with the dagger''' |
| − | whoever wants to learn fencing with the dagger he should not, that the blade should be sharp at the point as it is seen in Alexandria :<ref>Latin passage follows; very difficult.</ref> | + | whoever wants to learn fencing with the dagger he should not, that the blade should be sharp at the point as it is seen in Alexandria:<ref>Latin passage follows; very difficult.</ref><section end="1"/> |
| − | If the dagger, or the short knife that is used in duelling, is turned against you, wind it from your opponent with an inverse grip of your left hand. So that you grab his arm with your left hand and that his knife comes down over your arm; then turn his arm and knife around and he will loose it. | + | <section begin="2"/>If the dagger, or the short knife that is used in duelling, is turned against you, wind it from your opponent with an inverse grip of your left hand. So that you grab his arm with your left hand and that his knife comes down over your arm; then turn his arm and knife around and he will loose it.<section end="2"/> |
| − | Also one may defend this winding with four different methods.<ref>please note that there are only three methods described against the turning-out</ref> | + | <section begin="3"/>Also one may defend this winding with four different methods.<ref>please note that there are only three methods described against the turning-out</ref><section end="3"/> |
| − | The first is, when someone tries to grab the knife with the left hand, he should turn the point upwards so that he turns around the knife with an inverse grip with the tip pointing upwards, so one winding is defeated. And then you can do what you want. | + | <section begin="4"/>The first is, when someone tries to grab the knife with the left hand, he should turn the point upwards so that he turns around the knife with an inverse grip with the tip pointing upwards, so one winding is defeated. And then you can do what you want.<section end="4"/> |
| − | The second is, when someone again goes for the knife as above, as soon as he notices this, so pull the knife quickly and strongly back towards himself or push it against him again and cut through his arm, hand or thumb whatever he can get with the pulling and instantly he will be free to thrust again. | + | <section begin="5"/>The second is, when someone again goes for the knife as above, as soon as he notices this, so pull the knife quickly and strongly back towards himself or push it against him again and cut through his arm, hand or thumb whatever he can get with the pulling and instantly he will be free to thrust again.<section end="5"/> |
| − | If someone wants to defend and then break the second method, so he should follow the hand of the so he may get behind the opponent. However, if he does not follow but holds against with strength, he will sustain damage and the other one will win. | + | <section begin="6"/>If someone wants to defend and then break the second method, so he should follow the hand of the so he may get behind the opponent. However, if he does not follow but holds against with strength, he will sustain damage and the other one will win.<section end="6"/> |
| − | Also, when he managed to grab and hold the arm or hand with his left hand, so he drive his right hand quickly between his left holding hand and the dagger. And with an inverted grip, so that the thumb faces downwards and the small finger upwards, grab the dagger and turn it out of his hand. | + | <section begin="7"/>Also, when he managed to grab and hold the arm or hand with his left hand, so he drive his right hand quickly between his left holding hand and the dagger. And with an inverted grip, so that the thumb faces downwards and the small finger upwards, grab the dagger and turn it out of his hand.<section end="7"/> |
| − | Now if the adversary is slow with the defending and winding, and as soon as he holds the arm tightly, then he should threaten with the dagger, turn the point against his face and press upon him, just as he would intend to thrust him with brute strength. | + | <section begin="8"/>Now if the adversary is slow with the defending and winding, and as soon as he holds the arm tightly, then he should threaten with the dagger, turn the point against his face and press upon him, just as he would intend to thrust him with brute strength. |
Now the adversary will want to defend this quickly; and ''Indes'' he should wind or squeeze out the dagger outwards from the adversaries arm or inwards and then quickly go for him again with his dagger to the nearest target. This is possible because when he presses in with his dagger using threatening strength, the adversary will not think about the possible winding out and will not expect it – So he will be fooled. | Now the adversary will want to defend this quickly; and ''Indes'' he should wind or squeeze out the dagger outwards from the adversaries arm or inwards and then quickly go for him again with his dagger to the nearest target. This is possible because when he presses in with his dagger using threatening strength, the adversary will not think about the possible winding out and will not expect it – So he will be fooled. | ||
| − | And this is based on the words ''Vor'' and ''Nach'', and it means that someone threatens with one technique just as he would really intend to do it, so the one who wants to defend will be fooled if he is not prepared for the second technique. And then, as soon as the adversary does not expect it, he should rush in with the method he already wanted to do. And with this principle you can deceive many people. | + | And this is based on the words ''Vor'' and ''Nach'', and it means that someone threatens with one technique just as he would really intend to do it, so the one who wants to defend will be fooled if he is not prepared for the second technique. And then, as soon as the adversary does not expect it, he should rush in with the method he already wanted to do. And with this principle you can deceive many people.<section end="8"/> |
Latest revision as of 03:39, 20 October 2022
Here begins the fencing with the dagger
whoever wants to learn fencing with the dagger he should not, that the blade should be sharp at the point as it is seen in Alexandria:[1]
If the dagger, or the short knife that is used in duelling, is turned against you, wind it from your opponent with an inverse grip of your left hand. So that you grab his arm with your left hand and that his knife comes down over your arm; then turn his arm and knife around and he will loose it.
Also one may defend this winding with four different methods.[2]
The first is, when someone tries to grab the knife with the left hand, he should turn the point upwards so that he turns around the knife with an inverse grip with the tip pointing upwards, so one winding is defeated. And then you can do what you want.
The second is, when someone again goes for the knife as above, as soon as he notices this, so pull the knife quickly and strongly back towards himself or push it against him again and cut through his arm, hand or thumb whatever he can get with the pulling and instantly he will be free to thrust again.
If someone wants to defend and then break the second method, so he should follow the hand of the so he may get behind the opponent. However, if he does not follow but holds against with strength, he will sustain damage and the other one will win.
Also, when he managed to grab and hold the arm or hand with his left hand, so he drive his right hand quickly between his left holding hand and the dagger. And with an inverted grip, so that the thumb faces downwards and the small finger upwards, grab the dagger and turn it out of his hand.
Now if the adversary is slow with the defending and winding, and as soon as he holds the arm tightly, then he should threaten with the dagger, turn the point against his face and press upon him, just as he would intend to thrust him with brute strength.
Now the adversary will want to defend this quickly; and Indes he should wind or squeeze out the dagger outwards from the adversaries arm or inwards and then quickly go for him again with his dagger to the nearest target. This is possible because when he presses in with his dagger using threatening strength, the adversary will not think about the possible winding out and will not expect it – So he will be fooled.
And this is based on the words Vor and Nach, and it means that someone threatens with one technique just as he would really intend to do it, so the one who wants to defend will be fooled if he is not prepared for the second technique. And then, as soon as the adversary does not expect it, he should rush in with the method he already wanted to do. And with this principle you can deceive many people.
