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| + | == Translation notes == | ||
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| + | The following is a translation of the Goliath dagger techniques by ARMA scholar Kirk Siemsen. Included with the translation are some comments on the techniques by ARMA scholar Ran Pleasant and Kirk Siemsen. | ||
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| + | Goliath presents a number of extremely effective dagger techniques. Most of these techniques can also be found in the works of other Medieval and Renaissance masters. However, in some cases Goliath provide details about how to perform these techniques that are not as clear or are lacking in the other works. In addition, in select cases Goliath presents a different manner of performing a technique. | ||
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| + | In three images the man who is performing the technique is shown having been grabbed by his adversary. This is commonly known as "grab & stab", people like to control their victims. However, note that when you grab a person you gives him a split second in which to perform a counter technique. The grab actually serves as a trigger for the execution of the technique. Moreover, the arm you use to grab the other person provides him a part of your body to work against, it actually facilitates the counter. A number of techniques that start in response to a "grab & stab" are seen in [[Fiore de'i Liberi|Fiore]]. | ||
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| + | In some images a dagger is seen at the feet of the man performing the technique. It may well be that the man lay down his dagger while performing the technique for the artist and the artist simply drew what he was seeing. However, the dagger on the ground could also suggest that the adversary performed a successful disarming technique prior to making the attack seen in the image. For training purposes it has been helpful to start with the person playing the adversary role to perform a disarm before attacking the person who is performing the technique seen in the image. The flow from one action into another gives a more realistic context for the technique being practiced. -RP | ||
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| + | == Transcription notes (75r - 86r) == | ||
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Revision as of 16:23, 7 May 2014
| Work | Author(s) | Source | License |
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| Images | Biblioteka Jagiellońska | Biblioteka Jagiellońska |  |
| Translation | Kirk Siemsen | Private communication | |
| Transcription | Monika Maziarz, Bartłomiej Walczak, Grzegorz Żabiński, Anonymous | Index:Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020) | |
Translation notes
The following is a translation of the Goliath dagger techniques by ARMA scholar Kirk Siemsen. Included with the translation are some comments on the techniques by ARMA scholar Ran Pleasant and Kirk Siemsen.
Goliath presents a number of extremely effective dagger techniques. Most of these techniques can also be found in the works of other Medieval and Renaissance masters. However, in some cases Goliath provide details about how to perform these techniques that are not as clear or are lacking in the other works. In addition, in select cases Goliath presents a different manner of performing a technique.
In three images the man who is performing the technique is shown having been grabbed by his adversary. This is commonly known as "grab & stab", people like to control their victims. However, note that when you grab a person you gives him a split second in which to perform a counter technique. The grab actually serves as a trigger for the execution of the technique. Moreover, the arm you use to grab the other person provides him a part of your body to work against, it actually facilitates the counter. A number of techniques that start in response to a "grab & stab" are seen in Fiore.
In some images a dagger is seen at the feet of the man performing the technique. It may well be that the man lay down his dagger while performing the technique for the artist and the artist simply drew what he was seeing. However, the dagger on the ground could also suggest that the adversary performed a successful disarming technique prior to making the attack seen in the image. For training purposes it has been helpful to start with the person playing the adversary role to perform a disarm before attacking the person who is performing the technique seen in the image. The flow from one action into another gives a more realistic context for the technique being practiced. -RP
