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The '''Dresden Gloss Fragment''' is an anonymous [[century::15th century]] [[nationality::German]] commentary on a few lines of [[Johannes Liechtenauer]]'s Recital (''Zettel'') on the long sword. The only known copy is in the manuscript [[Johan Liechtnawers Fechtbuch geschriebenn (MS Dresd.C.487)|Dresd.C.487]], where it occupies three folia and is followed by six blank folia, perhaps indicating that it was left incomplete by the author or scribe. Its teachings are compatible with those of other 15th century glossators, but it includes a few ideas not seen anywhere else (such as the wrathful cut being intended for use against strikes straight down from above and the crooked cut being intended for use against all other strikes).<br />
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| Whoever over-hews you<br/>&emsp;The Wrath-hew point threatens them.<br />
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| If he becomes aware of it,<br/>&emsp;Take if off above without fear.<br />
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<p>Understand it like this: When one strikes at you from-the-roof, strike the wrath-hew with the long edge, as he is indicating to you, into his strike, upon his sword with the long edge of you sword and with this, from that moment on, wind your point into his face with command, that is with strength. </p><br />
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| <p>And if he becomes aware of it (that is, of the point) and parries it with a free displacement, then take it off above as the taking off has become indicated to you. When someone parries you freely you shall take off or deliver the strike somehow else as closely as possible on his sword. As I have indicated this to you that it more likely to happen for you than the taking-off: However he parries you, and if he will also parry this strike, then from that moment make one more or a inverted winding with a thrust or strike upon that.</p><br />
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| <p>Also know, if someone strikes at you, that you can just drive the wrath-point wholly alone therein and you have also parried (when you drive it correctly as you are taught it) and is hellish to parry. When you wish to harm someone, then drive in upon them. He makes whatever he will. He strikes or thrust upon you, then he must parry it so you come to the previously depicted plays.</p><br />
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| <p>Item. When you fence with someone, whatever they strike at you that does not come right straight from high down onto you, parry that with the crook. When the recital says: Whoever parries crooked well, disrupts many hews with stepping.<ref>Matches [[Hans Folz]]' text</ref> This is if someone strikes at you, then drive crooked thereon and then hew so that you come before any work and wind your point or strike into him so he must parry you, so that you again come to more strokes that you then may execute the failer or thrust or inverted wind or otherwise stroke or fall-across when someone parries you too low or too wide forwards with the parrying.</p><br />
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| <p>Item. You shall also drive handsome offsettings of hews or thrusts as you are taught it such that you do not drive after it too coarsely and that your point always stands towards his face in a thrust and if it is that he strikes to the other side from your offsetting, then do not drive-after him. And wind as if you will likewise offset on the other side and remain and thrust so that you are parried and so he must rid your thrust so that you again come to your work.</p><br />
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== Additional Resources ==<br />
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* [[Stephen Cheney|Cheney, Stephen]]. ''Ringeck &middot; Danzig &middot; Lew Longsword''. Self-published, 2020. ISBN 978-8649845441<br />
* [[Christian Henry Tobler|Tobler, Christian Henry]]. ''Secrets of German Medieval Swordsmanship''. Highland Village, TX: [[Chivalry Bookshelf]], 2001. ISBN 1-891448-07-2<br />
* [[Martin Wierschin|Wierschin, Martin]]. ''Meister Johann Liechtenauers Kunst des Fechtens''. München: Beck, 1965.<br />
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