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|Several who wish to catch us out, might think they have come across the perfect opportunity in this Plate XX, because, when they look at the figures they might believe that these are but contrived situations, which resemble more a theatrical display than the reality of a fight, and that the persons here are shown with such calm demeanour that it would be impossible to perform other than in this way, that is, with delicate precision, as a form of rehearsed spectacle, by mutually agreement to allow each other to approach so close beside and to such a favourable position as could only exist in the imagination. That is, to have a fight that went exactly according to one’s wishes. There their objection in fact has a fault in the point they would make. For those who are unknowing usually mistake the circumstances for the thing itself. One might tell them, in response, that if they could have a fight according to their wishes, then it would be enough to learn how to strike, and maybe two or three other lessons, which would serve in all cases, without any concern for the rest of it. But as that is an impossibility, and that the true Practitioner must be equipped to face a great number of circumstances, so variable, and so sudden, that it goes without saying that the scholar must first learn a great deal. We have not neglected to set these lessons here in proper order, each following those previous ones which are most similar. But even if these lessons are not useful in this particular order, it does not follow they will never be used at all. If those who object say that it is only by chance or by improvisation that these situations will come about, I say there is even more reason to equip oneself and to prepare for them, because on cannot expect to have a fight that goes only according to ones wishes. Any yet, occasions such as these are not as unfamiliar or rare as some might think. They are quite ordinary and even occur as often as any other, when one is passing another. Because then one always finds oneself beside and close to the opponent and in the same, or similar situations as those represented here. To the degree they do not understand the usefulness of our principles because their perception is coloured by others that they perceive as typical, the fault is still their own, that they do not adopt what they do not seek to understand. Because, as for the figures which, as they feel, do not display sufficiently angry faces or wide actions, it would be folly to give such moves more action than they require. To the degree they would wish to do that, it would mean there would be no point to choosing one posture or another. The way it is, is the most safe, to set the persons in the direct line posture, which is the most natural posture of all, and from which one must alway approach as close as is possible. Thus they are obliged to admit, despite themselves, that anyone who can perform these actions with ease, as our figures show, will be just as at ease using them in any other situation in which they find themselves, to the degree it is appropriate. The second reason, which is also the principal one, is that that the examination of these precepts should be done calmly, especially if used when the situation is otherwise. Just as performed in all the branches of knowledge, even those which seem to have no accordance in the world with abodes of the Muses. Behold the doings of war: can we not say the actions, which are horribly chaotic and tumultuous, yet can be described calmly? The finest arts of lively dances and of music, both vocal and instrumental, do they not require such an alacrity and grace in practice, that it would be an extreme folly for one just learning to try to imitate? The same is with other disciplines. Habit cannot be acquired without a solid understanding of the precepts, which cannot be learned without careful stucy, nor yet study without patience, nor patience without much time, effort, and consideration. And we cannot help but lay blame to a great degree, on popular practices, which are done in such a way that encourage the practice of wild abandon, with no consideration at all for ultimate goals, except to become used to working very quickly, in the hope of somehow finding favorable circumstances, as if there were nothing more to consider having seen a lesson two or three times, as if one chould overcome the Art through brute force. And in fact, they arrive sooner at the end of their art than we do of ours, but with much less secure a foundation. Also our precise consideration cannot be compatible with such precipitous haste. In a word, that which is most important of all, as our figures appear calm and poised, so the effect of our Art is to create such grace in those who practice, in place of more common practices which train others to be crude.
 
|Several who wish to catch us out, might think they have come across the perfect opportunity in this Plate XX, because, when they look at the figures they might believe that these are but contrived situations, which resemble more a theatrical display than the reality of a fight, and that the persons here are shown with such calm demeanour that it would be impossible to perform other than in this way, that is, with delicate precision, as a form of rehearsed spectacle, by mutually agreement to allow each other to approach so close beside and to such a favourable position as could only exist in the imagination. That is, to have a fight that went exactly according to one’s wishes. There their objection in fact has a fault in the point they would make. For those who are unknowing usually mistake the circumstances for the thing itself. One might tell them, in response, that if they could have a fight according to their wishes, then it would be enough to learn how to strike, and maybe two or three other lessons, which would serve in all cases, without any concern for the rest of it. But as that is an impossibility, and that the true Practitioner must be equipped to face a great number of circumstances, so variable, and so sudden, that it goes without saying that the scholar must first learn a great deal. We have not neglected to set these lessons here in proper order, each following those previous ones which are most similar. But even if these lessons are not useful in this particular order, it does not follow they will never be used at all. If those who object say that it is only by chance or by improvisation that these situations will come about, I say there is even more reason to equip oneself and to prepare for them, because on cannot expect to have a fight that goes only according to ones wishes. Any yet, occasions such as these are not as unfamiliar or rare as some might think. They are quite ordinary and even occur as often as any other, when one is passing another. Because then one always finds oneself beside and close to the opponent and in the same, or similar situations as those represented here. To the degree they do not understand the usefulness of our principles because their perception is coloured by others that they perceive as typical, the fault is still their own, that they do not adopt what they do not seek to understand. Because, as for the figures which, as they feel, do not display sufficiently angry faces or wide actions, it would be folly to give such moves more action than they require. To the degree they would wish to do that, it would mean there would be no point to choosing one posture or another. The way it is, is the most safe, to set the persons in the direct line posture, which is the most natural posture of all, and from which one must alway approach as close as is possible. Thus they are obliged to admit, despite themselves, that anyone who can perform these actions with ease, as our figures show, will be just as at ease using them in any other situation in which they find themselves, to the degree it is appropriate. The second reason, which is also the principal one, is that that the examination of these precepts should be done calmly, especially if used when the situation is otherwise. Just as performed in all the branches of knowledge, even those which seem to have no accordance in the world with abodes of the Muses. Behold the doings of war: can we not say the actions, which are horribly chaotic and tumultuous, yet can be described calmly? The finest arts of lively dances and of music, both vocal and instrumental, do they not require such an alacrity and grace in practice, that it would be an extreme folly for one just learning to try to imitate? The same is with other disciplines. Habit cannot be acquired without a solid understanding of the precepts, which cannot be learned without careful stucy, nor yet study without patience, nor patience without much time, effort, and consideration. And we cannot help but lay blame to a great degree, on popular practices, which are done in such a way that encourage the practice of wild abandon, with no consideration at all for ultimate goals, except to become used to working very quickly, in the hope of somehow finding favorable circumstances, as if there were nothing more to consider having seen a lesson two or three times, as if one chould overcome the Art through brute force. And in fact, they arrive sooner at the end of their art than we do of ours, but with much less secure a foundation. Also our precise consideration cannot be compatible with such precipitous haste. In a word, that which is most important of all, as our figures appear calm and poised, so the effect of our Art is to create such grace in those who practice, in place of more common practices which train others to be crude.
  
|Pluſieurs qui nous voudront reprendre, en penſeront avoir rencontré en ce Tableau XX. la plus juſte occaſion, qu’ils ſauroyent pretendre: par ce qu’en examinant les figures, il leur ſera peut eſtre advis, que ce ne ſont que des occaſions controuvées, qui reſſemblent pluſtoſt à la Parade d’une pompeuſe magnificance, qu’à la verité d’une bataille, & que les perſonnes y tiennent une gravité ſi modeſte, qu’il ſeroit impoſſible de la pratiquer autrement qu’à noſtre mode, c’eſt a dire en courtoiſie, en forme de ſpećtacle, & par convenance mutuelle de laiſſer venir l’un l’autre ſi avant, & à coſté, & avec tel avantage qui ne conſiſte qu’en imagination. En ſomme que ce ſeroyent des belles choſes, ſi on pouvoit avoir la bataille à ſa fantaſie. Voilà ce qu’on nous objećtera ſans point de faute. Car les ignorants ſe prennent ordinairement pluſtoſt aux circonſtances, qu’aux choſes meſmes. Diſons leur donc pour reſponſe, que ſi on pouvoit avoir la bataille à ſa fantaſie, que ce ſeroit aſſez de bien porter la botte, & puis encor deux ou trois petites leçons, qu’on ſeroit ſervir à touts propos, ſans ſe ſoucier du reſte. Mais d’autant que cela eſt impoſsible, & que la vraye Pratique doit eſtre munie contre un ſi grand nombre d’occurrences, ſi variables & ſi ſoudaines, qu’il eſt ſans contredit neceſſaire que l’Eſcholier ait au paravant eſtudié une bonne partie; nous n’avons pas voulu manquer à les mettre icy en leur ordre; & ſelon la ſuite des autres operations, avec les quelles elles ont plus de ſimilitude. Or ſi elles ne viennent pas en uſage en ceſte meſme ſorte, il ne s’enſuit pas pourtant qu’elles n’y viennent jamais? Et s’ils diſent que c’eſt par fortune ou à l’improviſte qu’on s’y retrouve, je diray qu’il y a d’autant plus de raiſon de s’armer & preparer alencontre, pource qu’il ne faut pas attendre d’avoir la bataille à ſa fantaſie. Et cependant, que ces occaſions ne ſont nullement ſi eſtranges ny rares comme ils penſent; car elles ſont fort ordinaires, & meſmes il ne s’en preſente quaſi nulles autres, quand ce vient à faire des paſſades. Car alors on ſe retrouve touſiours à coſté, fort pres de l’Adverſaire, & en ces meſmes ou ſemblables ſituations qui ſont icy repreſentées. De ſorte que s’ils ne comprennent pas l’utilité de nos preceptes pource qu’ils ſont agencez de quelques autres couleurs, que de celles qui leur ſemblent ordinaires, qu’ils s’en attribuent la faute à eux meſmes, ſans reprendre ce qu’ils n’ont pas comprins. Car quant aux figures qui ne font pas aſſez de mauvaiſes mines, comme il leur ſemble, ce ſeroit folie de leur attribuer plus de mouvements que les operations ne requierent. Et combien qu’on le vouluſt ainſi faire, toutesfois il n’y auroit point de raiſon de choiſir pluſtoſt l’une poſture que l’autre. De maniere que c’a eſté le plus ſeur de mettre les perſonnes en poſture de la droite ligne qui eſt la plus naturelle de toutes, & de laquelle on ſe doit touſiours approcher le plus qu’il eſt poſſible. Auſſi ſont ils contraints de confeſſer, malgré qu’ils en ayent, que celuy qui ſaura pratiquer ces operations avec tant de facilité, que nos figures demonſtrent, auſſi en fera il le meſme en quelque autre ſituation qu’il ſe retrouve, moyennant qu’elle ſoit propre. La ſeconde raiſon, qui eſt auſſi la principale, c’eſt que l’examen des preceptes doit eſtre modeſte, encores que l’uſage en fuſt autre. Comme il ſe pratique en toutes les Sciences, meſme en celles qui ne ſemblent avoir nulle accoinſtance du Monde au repos des Muſes. Voyez le fait de la guerre, Les aćtions, combien en ſont elles horribles & tumultueuſes, & cependant les inſtrućtions combien paiſibles? L’art de ſauter danſer & la Muſique Vocale & inſtrumentalle, ne requierent ils pas une ſi grande promptitude & viſteſſe en la pratique, que ce ſeroit une folie extreme de la vouloir imiter au commencement de l’apprentiſſage? Le ſemblable en eſt il auſsi des autres diſciplines. L’habitude ne ſe peut acquerir ſans une ſolide cognoiſſance des preceptes, qui ne peut eſte ſans examen, ny l’examen ſans patience, ny la patience ſans temps, ſans induſtrie, ſans modeſtie. Et c’eſte ce que nous ne pouvons laiſſer de blaſmer grandement en l’Exercise vulgaire, qui eſt façonné de telle ſorte, qu’on s’y adonne tout incontinent à la pratique, ſans nulle conſideration ulterieure, ſinon de s’accouſtumer à travailler fort viſte, en eſperance de rencontrer aucunesfois les occaſions favorables, comme s’il n’y avoit rien à conſiderer d’avantage, apres qu’on a veu monſtrer une leçon deux ou trois fois, comme s’il faloit emporter l’Art par violence. Et de fait ils arrivent pluſtoſt à leur pratique, que nous à la noſte, mais c’eſt avec moins de fondement. Auſſi noſtre conſideration ſi exaćte ne peut compatir avec une haſtivité ſi preciptée. Et pour dire en un mot ce qui importe plus que tout le reſte, comme nos figures ſe demonſtrent paiſible & modeſtes, auſſi l’effet de noſtre Art eſt de rendre telles les perſonnes qui s’y adonnent, au lieu que l’Exercice Vulgaire les rend plus farouches par l’accouſtumance du contraire.
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|Pluſieurs qui nous voudront reprendre, en penſeront avoir rencontré en ce Tableau XX. la plus juſte occaſion, qu’ils ſauroyent pretendre: par ce qu’en examinant les figures, il leur ſera peut eſtre advis, que ce ne ſont que des occaſions controuvées, qui reſſemblent pluſtoſt à la Parade d’une pompeuſe magnificance, qu’à la verité d’une bataille, & que les perſonnes y tiennent une gravité ſi modeſte, qu’il ſeroit impoſſible de la pratiquer autrement qu’à noſtre mode, c’eſt a dire en courtoiſie, en forme de ſpećtacle, & par convenance mutuelle de laiſſer venir l’un l’autre ſi avant, & à coſté, & avec tel avantage qui ne conſiſte qu’en imagination. En ſomme que ce ſeroyent des belles choſes, ſi on pouvoit avoir la bataille à ſa fantaſie. Voilà ce qu’on nous objećtera ſans point de faute. Car les ignorants ſe prennent ordinairement pluſtoſt aux circonſtances, qu’aux choſes meſmes. Diſons leur donc pour reſponſe, que ſi on pouvoit avoir la bataille à ſa fantaſie, que ce ſeroit aſſez de bien porter la botte, & puis encor deux ou trois petites leçons, qu’on ſeroit ſervir à touts propos, ſans ſe ſoucier du reſte. Mais d’autant que cela eſt impoſsible, & que la vraye Pratique doit eſtre munie contre un ſi grand nombre d’occurrences, ſi variables & ſi ſoudaines, qu’il eſt ſans contredit neceſſaire que l’Eſcholier ait au paravant eſtudié une bonne partie; nous n’avons pas voulu manquer à les mettre icy en leur ordre; & ſelon la ſuite des autres operations, avec les quelles elles ont plus de ſimilitude. Or ſi elles ne viennent pas en uſage en ceſte meſme ſorte, il ne s’enſuit pas pourtant qu’elles n’y viennent jamais? Et s’ils diſent que c’eſt par fortune ou à l’improviſte qu’on s’y retrouve, je diray qu’il y a d’autant plus de raiſon de s'armer & preparer alencontre, pource qu’il ne faut pas attendre d’avoir la bataille à ſa fantaſie. Et cependant, que ces occaſions ne ſont nullement ſi eſtranges ny rares comme ils penſent; car elles ſont fort ordinaires, & meſmes il ne s’en preſente quaſi nulles autres, quand ce vient à faire des paſſades. Car alors on ſe retrouve touſiours à coſté, fort pres de l’Adverſaire, & en ces meſmes ou ſemblables ſituations qui ſont icy repreſentées. De ſorte que s’ils ne comprennent pas l’utilité de nos preceptes pource qu’ils ſont agencez de quelques autres couleurs, que de celles qui leur ſemblent ordinaires, qu’ils s’en attribuent la faute à eux meſmes, ſans reprendre ce qu’ils n’ont pas comprins. Car quant aux figures qui ne font pas aſſez de mauvaiſes mines, comme il leur ſemble, ce ſeroit folie de leur attribuer plus de mouvements que les operations ne requierent. Et combien qu’on le vouluſt ainſi faire, toutesfois il n’y auroit point de raiſon de choiſir pluſtoſt l’une poſture que l’autre. De maniere que c’a eſté le plus ſeur de mettre les perſonnes en poſture de la droite ligne qui eſt la plus naturelle de toutes, & de laquelle on ſe doit touſiours approcher le plus qu’il eſt poſſible. Auſſi ſont ils contraints de confeſſer, malgré qu’ils en ayent, que celuy qui ſaura pratiquer ces operations avec tant de facilité, que nos figures demonſtrent, auſſi en fera il le meſme en quelque autre ſituation qu’il ſe retrouve, moyennant qu’elle ſoit propre. La ſeconde raiſon, qui eſt auſſi la principale, c’eſt que l’examen des preceptes doit eſtre modeſte, encores que l’uſage en fuſt autre. Comme il ſe pratique en toutes les Sciences, meſme en celles qui ne ſemblent avoir nulle accoinſtance du Monde au repos des Muſes. Voyez le fait de la guerre, Les aćtions, combien en ſont elles horribles & tumultueuſes, & cependant les inſtrućtions combien paiſibles? L’art de ſauter danſer & la Muſique Vocale & inſtrumentalle, ne requierent ils pas une ſi grande promptitude & viſteſſe en la pratique, que ce ſeroit une folie extreme de la vouloir imiter au commencement de l’apprentiſſage? Le ſemblable en eſt il auſsi des autres diſciplines. L’habitude ne ſe peut acquerir ſans une ſolide cognoiſſance des preceptes, qui ne peut eſte ſans examen, ny l’examen ſans patience, ny la patience ſans temps, ſans induſtrie, ſans modeſtie. Et c’eſte ce que nous ne pouvons laiſſer de blaſmer grandement en l’Exercise vulgaire, qui eſt façonné de telle ſorte, qu’on s’y adonne tout incontinent à la pratique, ſans nulle conſideration ulterieure, ſinon de s’accouſtumer à travailler fort viſte, en eſperance de rencontrer aucunesfois les occaſions favorables, comme s’il n’y avoit rien à conſiderer d’avantage, apres qu’on a veu monſtrer une leçon deux ou trois fois, comme s’il faloit emporter l’Art par violence. Et de fait ils arrivent pluſtoſt à leur pratique, que nous à la noſte, mais c’eſt avec moins de fondement. Auſſi noſtre conſideration ſi exaćte ne peut compatir avec une haſtivité ſi preciptée. Et pour dire en un mot ce qui importe plus que tout le reſte, comme nos figures ſe demonſtrent paiſible & modeſtes, auſſi l’effet de noſtre Art eſt de rendre telles les perſonnes qui s’y adonnent, au lieu que l’Exercice Vulgaire les rend plus farouches par l’accouſtumance du contraire.
  
 
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