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− | <section begin="1"/>{{red|b=1|H}}Ere begins Master Liechtenauer's art of fencing with the sword, on horse and on foot, armored and unarmored. First and foremost, you should notice and remember that there's only one art of the sword, and it was discovered and developed hundreds of years ago, and it is the foundation and core of all | + | <section begin="1"/>{{red|b=1|H}}Ere begins Master Liechtenauer's art of fencing with the sword, on horse and on foot, armored and unarmored. First and foremost, you should notice and remember that there's only one art of the sword, and it was discovered and developed hundreds of years ago, and it is the foundation and core of all fencing arts. |
Master Liechtenauer understood and practiced this art completely and correctly; he did not discover or invent it himself (as has been written previously),<ref>Here the author seems to be referring to (and disagreeing with) an earlier writing about Liechtenauer which stated that he invented the art of fencing. There’s no way to know what writing this is referring to, but the glosses of Sigmund Ainringck, Pseudo-Peter von Danzig, and Nicolaus all make this claim, and it is therefore likely to have come from the original ur-gloss of that tradition. If that is what the author is referring to, it is yet another sign that this gloss was written in the 15th century (and also evidence that the author had access to those teachings, even though he didn’t incorporate them into his gloss).</ref> but rather traveled through many lands and searched for the true and correct art for the sake of experiencing and knowing it. | Master Liechtenauer understood and practiced this art completely and correctly; he did not discover or invent it himself (as has been written previously),<ref>Here the author seems to be referring to (and disagreeing with) an earlier writing about Liechtenauer which stated that he invented the art of fencing. There’s no way to know what writing this is referring to, but the glosses of Sigmund Ainringck, Pseudo-Peter von Danzig, and Nicolaus all make this claim, and it is therefore likely to have come from the original ur-gloss of that tradition. If that is what the author is referring to, it is yet another sign that this gloss was written in the 15th century (and also evidence that the author had access to those teachings, even though he didn’t incorporate them into his gloss).</ref> but rather traveled through many lands and searched for the true and correct art for the sake of experiencing and knowing it. | ||
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For this art is serious, correct, and complete, and everything that proceeds from it goes toward whatever is nearest by the shortest way, simply and directly. | For this art is serious, correct, and complete, and everything that proceeds from it goes toward whatever is nearest by the shortest way, simply and directly. | ||
− | When you want to cut or thrust at someone, it should be as if you tied a thread or a cord to the point or edge of your sword and pulled or drew it toward | + | When you want to cut or thrust at someone, it should be as if you tied a thread or a cord to the point or edge of your sword and pulled or drew it toward their nearest exposure, because you should cut or thrust in the shortest and surest manner, in the most decisive way. This is all you should want to do, because proper fencing doesn't have broad or elaborate parries, nor the wide fencing around by which people procrastinate and delay. |
− | You will still find many dancing masters<ref>''Leichmeister'' is a pun that I can’t capture in English: ''leich'' means a dance or other rhythmic movement, and ''leiche'' means corpse. ''Leichmeister'' seem to be masters who teach fencing that is more like dancing than fighting, and get their students killed if they ever have to fight a duel. "Masters of the deadly dance" might capture the double meaning, but it makes them sound awesome which is hardly the intent. Alternatively, the pseudo-Danzig gloss makes reference to ''leichtfertigen schirmaister'' ("careless/frivolous fencing masters"), and ''leichmeister'' could be read as a shortening of that epithet.</ref> claiming that they believe that the art of the sword grows better and richer from day to day, and that they have conceived and created a new art. But I would like to see anyone who could invent and perform a legitimate strike or play that falls outside of Liechtenauer's art. All they do is jumble and confuse the plays and then give them new names (each according to | + | You will still find many dancing masters<ref>''Leichmeister'' is a pun that I can’t capture in English: ''leich'' means a dance or other rhythmic movement, and ''leiche'' means corpse. ''Leichmeister'' seem to be masters who teach fencing that is more like dancing than fighting, and get their students killed if they ever have to fight a duel. "Masters of the deadly dance" might capture the double meaning, but it makes them sound awesome which is hardly the intent. Alternatively, the [[Pseudo-Peter von Danzig|pseudo-Danzig gloss]] makes reference to ''leichtfertigen schirmaister'' ("careless/frivolous fencing masters"), and ''leichmeister'' could be read as a shortening of that epithet.</ref> claiming that they believe that the art of the sword grows better and richer from day to day, and that they have conceived and created a new art. But I would like to see anyone who could invent and perform a legitimate strike or play that falls outside of Liechtenauer's art. All they do is jumble and confuse the plays and then give them new names (each one according to their own ideas), and they devise wide parries and often want to do two or three strikes in place of a single one. They do this to be praised by the ignorant for the sheer liveliness of it, as they stand fiendishly and perform elaborate parries and wide fencing around, and, having no moderation in their fencing, they bring long and far-reaching strikes, slowly and clumsily, and severely delay and overextend and expose themselves. This doesn't belong to earnest fencing, but only to play in the fencing schools for exercise and entertainment. |
− | Earnest fencing goes swiftly and precisely, without hesitation or delay, as if measured and balanced by a cord (or something similar). When you cut or thrust at the | + | Earnest fencing goes swiftly and precisely, without hesitation or delay, as if measured and balanced by a cord (or something similar). When you cut or thrust at the person who stands in front of you, then clearly no strike backward or to the side can help you, nor any wide fencing with multiple strikes (nor any other way that you procrastinate and delay, and miss the chance to end it with them). |
− | On the contrary, you must strike straight and directly toward | + | On the contrary, you must strike straight and directly toward them (toward their head or body, whatever is nearest and surest), so that you can reach and take them swiftly and rapidly. Furthermore, one strike is better than delivering four or six, delaying and waiting too long so your opponent wins the Leading Strike faster than you (because this strike is a great advantage in fencing). |
It's written further on in the text how Liechtenauer only lists five strikes, along with other plays which are sufficient for earnest fencing, and he teaches how to perform them according to the true art, straight and direct, as closely and as certainly as possible. Moreover, he leaves aside all the new inventions and confusing work of the dancing masters, which don't come from this art.<section end="1"/> | It's written further on in the text how Liechtenauer only lists five strikes, along with other plays which are sufficient for earnest fencing, and he teaches how to perform them according to the true art, straight and direct, as closely and as certainly as possible. Moreover, he leaves aside all the new inventions and confusing work of the dancing masters, which don't come from this art.<section end="1"/> | ||
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<section begin="5"/>You should also have moderation in your plays and not step too far, so that you can better recover from one step to the next (backward or forward, however they go). Also, two short steps are often faster than one long one, so you will need to do a little run with short steps as often as you will a big step or a leap.<section end="5"/> | <section begin="5"/>You should also have moderation in your plays and not step too far, so that you can better recover from one step to the next (backward or forward, however they go). Also, two short steps are often faster than one long one, so you will need to do a little run with short steps as often as you will a big step or a leap.<section end="5"/> | ||
− | <section begin="6"/>Whatever you want to perform cleverly, in earnest or in play, should be hidden from the eyes of your opponent so that | + | <section begin="6"/>Whatever you want to perform cleverly, in earnest or in play, should be hidden from the eyes of your opponent so that they don't know what you intend to do to them. |
− | As soon as you approach the point where you believe you could very well reach and take | + | As soon as you approach the point where you believe you could very well reach and take them, step and strike toward them brazenly, and then drive swiftly toward their head or body. You must always win the Leading Strike, whether it lands or misses, and thus allow them to come to nothing (as is written better further on in the common lesson).<section end="6"/> |
− | <section begin="7"/>Moreover, it's better to target the upper exposures rather than the lower, and then boldly and swiftly drive in over | + | <section begin="7"/>Moreover, it's better to target the upper exposures rather than the lower, and then boldly and swiftly drive in over their hilt with cuts or thrusts, since you can reach them much better and more certainly over their hilt than under it. You're also much surer in all your fencing like this, since harrying above is much better than below. Though if it happens that the lower exposures are nearer (as it often does), then you should target them.<section end="7"/> |
<section begin="8"/>Always go to your right side with your plays, because in all matters of fencing and wrestling, you can better take your opponent in this way than directly from the front. Whoever knows this piece and brings it well is not a bad fencer.<section end="8"/> | <section begin="8"/>Always go to your right side with your plays, because in all matters of fencing and wrestling, you can better take your opponent in this way than directly from the front. Whoever knows this piece and brings it well is not a bad fencer.<section end="8"/> | ||
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<section begin="9"/>Remember that if you're obliged to fight earnestly, you should contemplate a thoroughly-practiced play beforehand (whichever you want, if it's complete and correct), and internalize it seriously and hold it in your mind with good spirit. Then perform whatever you chose upon your opponent with pure intent (just as if you were to say, "This I truly intend to do well"), and it should and must go forward with the aid of God, so it will fail you in nothing. Thus you do righteously by charging and stepping in to strike the Leading Strike (as it's written many times further on).<section end="9"/> | <section begin="9"/>Remember that if you're obliged to fight earnestly, you should contemplate a thoroughly-practiced play beforehand (whichever you want, if it's complete and correct), and internalize it seriously and hold it in your mind with good spirit. Then perform whatever you chose upon your opponent with pure intent (just as if you were to say, "This I truly intend to do well"), and it should and must go forward with the aid of God, so it will fail you in nothing. Thus you do righteously by charging and stepping in to strike the Leading Strike (as it's written many times further on).<section end="9"/> | ||
− | <section begin="10"/>{{red|b=1|O}}H, all fencing requires<br/> The help of the God of Righteousness,<br/> | + | <section begin="10"/><ref>This folio, containing two poems and a lesson on continual motion, marks the beginning of the second quire. It's made of parchment and is a remnant of the cover that the quire had when it was a separate booklet (prior to being bound into the manuscript). Since they're written on the cover and no other quire had its cover written on, it's possible that these writings were added after the rest of the text was written.</ref>{{red|b=1|O}}H, all fencing requires<br/> The help of the God of Righteousness,<br/> |
A straight and healthy body,<br/> And a complete and well-made sword.<br/> | A straight and healthy body,<br/> And a complete and well-made sword.<br/> | ||
Before, After, Strong, Weak;<br/> 'Within', remember that word;<br/> | Before, After, Strong, Weak;<br/> 'Within', remember that word;<br/> | ||
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Of the whole sword,<br/> And many good, gracious companions.<section end="10"/> | Of the whole sword,<br/> And many good, gracious companions.<section end="10"/> | ||
− | <section begin="11"/>'{{red|b=1|M}}Otion', that beautiful word,<br/> Is the heart and crown of fencing.<br/> | + | <section begin="11"/>'''{{red|b=1|M}}Otion''', that beautiful word,<br/> Is the heart and crown of fencing.<br/> |
The whole matter<br/> Of fencing, with all<br/> | The whole matter<br/> Of fencing, with all<br/> | ||
The concerns and articles<br/> Of the foundation, which<br/> | The concerns and articles<br/> Of the foundation, which<br/> | ||
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In a continuous advance,<br/> Immediately and with no pause,<br/> | In a continuous advance,<br/> Immediately and with no pause,<br/> | ||
So that your opponent cannot come<br/> To blows. This way, you will profit<br/> | So that your opponent cannot come<br/> To blows. This way, you will profit<br/> | ||
− | And the other will be harmed.<br/> Because | + | And the other will be harmed.<br/> Because they can't escape<br/> |
Without being beaten,<br/> As long as you fence according to this advice,<br/> | Without being beaten,<br/> As long as you fence according to this advice,<br/> | ||
And according to the lesson<br/> Which is written in this way:<br/> | And according to the lesson<br/> Which is written in this way:<br/> | ||
− | I say to you honestly,<br/> No | + | I say to you honestly,<br/> No one covers himself without danger.<br/> |
If you have understood this,<br/> He cannot come to blows.<ref>This final quatrain is taken from the Recital, verses 40-41 and 100-101.</ref><section end="11"/> | If you have understood this,<br/> He cannot come to blows.<ref>This final quatrain is taken from the Recital, verses 40-41 and 100-101.</ref><section end="11"/> | ||
− | <section begin="12"/>Here remember that ''continual motion'' is the beginning, the middle, and the end of all fencing according to this art and teaching, so that you strike the beginning, the middle, and the end in a single advance, and bring it well without the hindrance of your adversary and without allowing | + | <section begin="12"/>Here remember that ''continual motion'' is the beginning, the middle, and the end of all fencing according to this art and teaching, so that you strike the beginning, the middle, and the end in a single advance, and bring it well without the hindrance of your adversary and without allowing them to come to blows. This is based on the two words 'Before' and 'After' (that is, the Leading Strike and the Following Strike); ''directly, in a single moment, one after another with nothing in between''.<section end="12"/> |
Latest revision as of 20:44, 8 January 2023
HEre begins Master Liechtenauer's art of fencing with the sword, on horse and on foot, armored and unarmored. First and foremost, you should notice and remember that there's only one art of the sword, and it was discovered and developed hundreds of years ago, and it is the foundation and core of all fencing arts.
Master Liechtenauer understood and practiced this art completely and correctly; he did not discover or invent it himself (as has been written previously),[1] but rather traveled through many lands and searched for the true and correct art for the sake of experiencing and knowing it.
For this art is serious, correct, and complete, and everything that proceeds from it goes toward whatever is nearest by the shortest way, simply and directly.
When you want to cut or thrust at someone, it should be as if you tied a thread or a cord to the point or edge of your sword and pulled or drew it toward their nearest exposure, because you should cut or thrust in the shortest and surest manner, in the most decisive way. This is all you should want to do, because proper fencing doesn't have broad or elaborate parries, nor the wide fencing around by which people procrastinate and delay.
You will still find many dancing masters[2] claiming that they believe that the art of the sword grows better and richer from day to day, and that they have conceived and created a new art. But I would like to see anyone who could invent and perform a legitimate strike or play that falls outside of Liechtenauer's art. All they do is jumble and confuse the plays and then give them new names (each one according to their own ideas), and they devise wide parries and often want to do two or three strikes in place of a single one. They do this to be praised by the ignorant for the sheer liveliness of it, as they stand fiendishly and perform elaborate parries and wide fencing around, and, having no moderation in their fencing, they bring long and far-reaching strikes, slowly and clumsily, and severely delay and overextend and expose themselves. This doesn't belong to earnest fencing, but only to play in the fencing schools for exercise and entertainment.
Earnest fencing goes swiftly and precisely, without hesitation or delay, as if measured and balanced by a cord (or something similar). When you cut or thrust at the person who stands in front of you, then clearly no strike backward or to the side can help you, nor any wide fencing with multiple strikes (nor any other way that you procrastinate and delay, and miss the chance to end it with them).
On the contrary, you must strike straight and directly toward them (toward their head or body, whatever is nearest and surest), so that you can reach and take them swiftly and rapidly. Furthermore, one strike is better than delivering four or six, delaying and waiting too long so your opponent wins the Leading Strike faster than you (because this strike is a great advantage in fencing).
It's written further on in the text how Liechtenauer only lists five strikes, along with other plays which are sufficient for earnest fencing, and he teaches how to perform them according to the true art, straight and direct, as closely and as certainly as possible. Moreover, he leaves aside all the new inventions and confusing work of the dancing masters, which don't come from this art.
Now notice and remember that you can't speak or write about fencing and explain it as simply and clearly as it can be shown and taught by hand. Therefore, you should consider and debate matters in your mind—and practice them even more in play—so that you understand them in earnest fencing. Practice is better than artfulness, because practice could be sufficient without artfulness, but artfulness is never sufficient without practice.
Also know that the sword is like a set of scales, so that if the blade is large and heavy, the pommel must also be heavy (just as with scales). Therefore, to use your sword certainly and securely, grip it with both hands between the guard and the pommel, because you hold the sword with much more certainty like this than when you grip it with one hand on the pommel. You also strike much harder and more strongly, because the pommel overthrows itself and swings itself in harmony with the strike, and the strike then arrives much harder than when you grip the sword by the pommel (which restrains the pommel so that the strike can't come strongly or correctly).
Furthermore, when you fence with someone, take full heed of your steps and be certain in them, just as if you were standing on a set of scales, moving backward or forward as necessary, firmly and skillfully, swiftly and readily.
Your fencing should proceed with good spirit and good mind or reason, and without fear (as is written later).
You should also have moderation in your plays and not step too far, so that you can better recover from one step to the next (backward or forward, however they go). Also, two short steps are often faster than one long one, so you will need to do a little run with short steps as often as you will a big step or a leap.
Whatever you want to perform cleverly, in earnest or in play, should be hidden from the eyes of your opponent so that they don't know what you intend to do to them.
As soon as you approach the point where you believe you could very well reach and take them, step and strike toward them brazenly, and then drive swiftly toward their head or body. You must always win the Leading Strike, whether it lands or misses, and thus allow them to come to nothing (as is written better further on in the common lesson).
Moreover, it's better to target the upper exposures rather than the lower, and then boldly and swiftly drive in over their hilt with cuts or thrusts, since you can reach them much better and more certainly over their hilt than under it. You're also much surer in all your fencing like this, since harrying above is much better than below. Though if it happens that the lower exposures are nearer (as it often does), then you should target them.
Always go to your right side with your plays, because in all matters of fencing and wrestling, you can better take your opponent in this way than directly from the front. Whoever knows this piece and brings it well is not a bad fencer.
Remember that if you're obliged to fight earnestly, you should contemplate a thoroughly-practiced play beforehand (whichever you want, if it's complete and correct), and internalize it seriously and hold it in your mind with good spirit. Then perform whatever you chose upon your opponent with pure intent (just as if you were to say, "This I truly intend to do well"), and it should and must go forward with the aid of God, so it will fail you in nothing. Thus you do righteously by charging and stepping in to strike the Leading Strike (as it's written many times further on).
[3]OH, all fencing requires
The help of the God of Righteousness,
A straight and healthy body,
And a complete and well-made sword.
Before, After, Strong, Weak;
'Within', remember that word;
Cuts, thrusts, slices, pressing,
Guards, covers, pushing, feeling, drawing back,
Winding and hanging,
Moving in and out, leaping, grabbing, wrestling,
Speed and audacity,
Prudence, cunning and ingenuity,
Moderation, stealth,
Reason, deliberation, readiness,
Exercise and good spirit,
Motion, dexterity, good steps.
In these several verses
Are fundamentals, principles
And concerns,
And the entire matter
Of all the art of fencing is labelled for you.
You should consider this correctly,
As you will also actually,
And in particular hereafter,
Hear or read it,
In an exact and precise manner.
Fencer, understand this,
So will be revealed to you the complete art
Of the whole sword,
And many good, gracious companions.
'MOtion', that beautiful word,
Is the heart and crown of fencing.
The whole matter
Of fencing, with all
The concerns and articles
Of the foundation, which
Are called by their names,
Will be revealed to you hereafter.
When you fight,
Be well familiar with them,
And stay in motion
And not at rest,
So that when fencing starts,
You do it correctly,
Continuously and decisively,
One after another, boldly,
In a continuous advance,
Immediately and with no pause,
So that your opponent cannot come
To blows. This way, you will profit
And the other will be harmed.
Because they can't escape
Without being beaten,
As long as you fence according to this advice,
And according to the lesson
Which is written in this way:
I say to you honestly,
No one covers himself without danger.
If you have understood this,
He cannot come to blows.[4]
Here remember that continual motion is the beginning, the middle, and the end of all fencing according to this art and teaching, so that you strike the beginning, the middle, and the end in a single advance, and bring it well without the hindrance of your adversary and without allowing them to come to blows. This is based on the two words 'Before' and 'After' (that is, the Leading Strike and the Following Strike); directly, in a single moment, one after another with nothing in between.
- ↑ Here the author seems to be referring to (and disagreeing with) an earlier writing about Liechtenauer which stated that he invented the art of fencing. There’s no way to know what writing this is referring to, but the glosses of Sigmund Ainringck, Pseudo-Peter von Danzig, and Nicolaus all make this claim, and it is therefore likely to have come from the original ur-gloss of that tradition. If that is what the author is referring to, it is yet another sign that this gloss was written in the 15th century (and also evidence that the author had access to those teachings, even though he didn’t incorporate them into his gloss).
- ↑ Leichmeister is a pun that I can’t capture in English: leich means a dance or other rhythmic movement, and leiche means corpse. Leichmeister seem to be masters who teach fencing that is more like dancing than fighting, and get their students killed if they ever have to fight a duel. "Masters of the deadly dance" might capture the double meaning, but it makes them sound awesome which is hardly the intent. Alternatively, the pseudo-Danzig gloss makes reference to leichtfertigen schirmaister ("careless/frivolous fencing masters"), and leichmeister could be read as a shortening of that epithet.
- ↑ This folio, containing two poems and a lesson on continual motion, marks the beginning of the second quire. It's made of parchment and is a remnant of the cover that the quire had when it was a separate booklet (prior to being bound into the manuscript). Since they're written on the cover and no other quire had its cover written on, it's possible that these writings were added after the rest of the text was written.
- ↑ This final quatrain is taken from the Recital, verses 40-41 and 100-101.