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Hi Robert,

Thanks for your contributions to Wiktenauer!

We generally only include one translation per treatise and one transcription per manuscript or publication. I've removed Kevin's Preface translation and Mike's Messer translation from Andre Paurñfeyndt's article. I have likewise removed your two-handed sword translation, which I will include below. When you have finished it, you are welcome to replace Kevin's with your own.


~ Michael Chidester (Contact) 19:30, 12 February 2018 (UTC)


The first chapter teaches

How one should use the longsword advantageously, which is used with both hands, as well as the battle-sword, riding-sword, estoc, and many others which I leave out for brevity's sake. I praise myself, because I am a recital-fighter
In sword and messer undisturbed
In the strong, in the weakness, short and long
My adversary I do harm
In-the-moment note, understand me correctly
Hit him before he strikes his work. Another I have on top of that
So that I can sell my art expensively
I only do little work
I gladly strike to the body after the blade
To cut, strike, and stab.
So, if you want to learn thoroughly,
Come to me. The first guard is called the high-point, or ox as the ancients called it, and is often used.

Who strikes to you from above,
is threatened by the rage-point.
If he notices it,
take off above without danger.
Be strong against him.
Wind and stab, if he sees it, take it down.
This also note,
Strike, thrust, bind, guard, soft or hard.
In-the moment and after.
Listen: Your war should not be hasty.
Who avoids the war
will be shamed above and below.
In all winding,
learn to find strikes, thrusts and cuts.
Also you should notice thrusts or cuts
in all encounters.
If you want to weaken the masters. WING

Take the wing from the upper guard or the high-point, with the first strike from the roof to the left ear, the second from below with the step to your left side, the third strike behind him to his head. Counter

If one wings to you, parry the first from the roof, the second strongly from below with your long edge, and grab his sword's pommel with your left hand, by doing so you throw him over his sword. Text

Rage-strike, crooked, across,
has squinter with parter.
Alber parries.
Travelling-after and overrunning give strikes.
Change-through, pull.
Running-through, cutting-off, hand-pressing.
Hang, wind with openings.
Strike to the slashes, stab with thrusts. Crown

Step and strike from above with your long edge through to his left ear. Secondly, step and strike with the short edge from above downwards to his right ear. Thirdly, strike obstructively with the long edge. Counter

When one Crown-Strikes you, follow the first strike. In response to his second strike, place the short edge on his neck, so that he strikes himself. Feint

Take the feint from the high-point; strike shortly through to his left ear and step with your left foot to his right side, and strike the second stroke long inwards to his right ear. Stay high with good displacement. Counter

Strike from above, out of the Ox, towards him, below through the Roses and place the short edge into his face, wind away shortly and strike after with the long edge. Piece

Strike through against his strike, and step with your right foot in the triangle so that you almost expose yourself, so that he strikes to your opening. After that, step with the left foot and strike after to his hand. Of the four openings

Know four openings.
Aim, you will surely hit.
Without any danger,
however he moves. Breaking the four openings

If you want to avenge yourself,
break the four openings artfully.
Double above,
mutate below.
I say, truthfully,
no man defends without danger.
If you have learnt this,
he cannot come to strikes. Slinging

Perform the slinging from the upper guard. Strike towards him with the long edge to his left ear. If he parries it, then do as if you want to pull, and stay with the short edge at his left ear, then pull and sling from below with the flat to his ear. Counter

When one slings to you, let the first strike cut off, and parry the second downwards from above with your long edge, so that you may stab or supress him. Shooting-through

You may also perform the shooting-through from the high point. Strike downwards from above with the short edge, below through the roses with inverted hands into his face; let it run off shortly and step after with the long edge. Counter

When one shoots-through to you and wants to lay the short edge onto you so that you cannot work, then take your sword by the point and strike his head with the cross. Iron Gate

The third guard is called the Iron Gate, or 'Across' as the ancients called it

The across removes
what comes from the Roof.
Strike across with the strong,
note your work carefully.
Strike across to the Plough
and to the Ox, hard together.
He who strikes across well,
endangers the head by jumping.
The feinter deceives,
and moves as he wishes.
The turner forces,
the running-through wrestles too.
The elbow,
surely take, and jump into the balance
Feint twice,
if you hit, also perform the slice.
Twice further on,
step to the left and do not be slow. From the roof

Stand in the Iron Gate with crossed hands. If one strikes to you from the Roof, take his strike from the Roof with the short edge, and step after him with the long edge. Counter

Perform the feint onto him, so that when he lies in the Iron Gate he parries in vain and exposes himself. Shooting Over

Stand as before, with crossed hands, and step with the short edge shot-over at his left ear, and turn your hands, and strike after with the long edge. Counter

When one overshoots the short edge, then turn the strike away, so that you come to a strike after a strike and similar work. Of the displacements

There are four displacements,
that hurt the guards.
Beware the displacements,
when it happens to you it will trouble you.
When you have been displaced,
and when that has happened,
hear what I advise you.
Slash quickly and suddenly away,
set-on to the four ends, stay thereon and if you want to end it. The other guard is called the Hanging Point, and it is twofold

Crooked on nimbly,
throw your point on the hands.
Who crooks well,
hurts many strikes by stepping.
Strike crookedly to the flat,
if you want to weaken the masters.
When it clashes above,
stand down, I will praise that.
Crooked and short-strike,
watch for the changing-through.
Crook who wrongs you,
the noble war will confuse him,
so that, verily,
he does not know where he is without danger. Hanging Point

In the Hanging Point, place the right foot forward like in the picture, with the flat placed beneath your face. Parry strikes that are struck from the Roof short and high, let them run off shortly and step after long with the strike. Counter

Work from the right hand, with the right foot forward. If he stands idly in the Hanging Point, place the short edge at his right ear so that he cannot pull; if he does pull, he exposes himself. Counter-Counter

When one places the short edge onto your neck, turn your hand with the sword and bar him from above with the long edge; Then, grab his pommel with your left hand and throw him to the left sside, over his sword. Who lives on this earth
Who is not violated by anyone

Use only four guards,
and flee the common.
Ox, Plough, Fool,
and From the Roof should not be unknown to you.

The old art and our newfound art use different names, even though their meanings are the same, such as High-point, hanging-point, Iron Gate, Plough and many more.


You can perform the over-grabbing from the high-point. Grab the blade above your cross-guard so that your fingers rest upon the flat. When one strikes to you, strike against him with the strong so that you forcefully displace his sword, and pull your flat to his right ear, and go hhigh in your displacement. Counter

When one over-grabs towards you, offer him the strike and pull it short, then strike long after. Or, break it with the feint or the Crown Strike. Remaining

Stand in the upper guard or the high-point and strike to his left ear with the long edge, and act as if you want to pull, and remain with the short edge on his left ear. After that, pull and strike after with the long edge. Counter

When one remains on your left ear with the short edge, then remain on the other side. If he then pulls first, he strikes himself.