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== Treatise ==
 
== Treatise ==
  
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! id="thin" | <p>Images<br/>from the [[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS Chart.A.558)|Archetype]]</p>
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! <p>{{rating|C}}<br/>by [[Tyrone Artur Budzin]]</p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS Chart.A.558)|Archetype]] (1448){{edit index|Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS Chart.A.558)}}<br/>by [[Dierk Hagedorn]]</p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS 26.236)|New York Version]] (1600s){{edit index|Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS 26.236)}}<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (2º Col.MS.Philos.61)|Göttingen Version]] (1600s){{edit index|Talhoffer Fechtbuch (2º Col.MS.Philos.61)}}<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.Guelf.125.16.Extrav.)|Wolfenbüttel Version]] (1600s){{edit index|Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.Guelf.125.16.Extrav.)}}<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Sammelhandschrift (2º MS iurid. 29)|Kassel Version]] (1600s){{edit index|Talhoffer Sammelhandschrift (2º MS iurid. 29)}}<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.icon.395)|Munich Version]] (ca.1820){{edit index|Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.icon.395)}}<br/></p>
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! id="thin" | <p>Images<br/>from the [[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS Chart.A.558)|Archetype]]</p>
 
! id="thin" | <p>Images<br/>from the [[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS Chart.A.558)|Archetype]]</p>
 
! <p>{{rating|C}}<br/>by [[Tyrone Artur Budzin]]</p>
 
! <p>{{rating|C}}<br/>by [[Tyrone Artur Budzin]]</p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS Chart.A.558)|Archetype]] (1448)<br/>by [[Dierk Hagedorn]]</p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS Chart.A.558)|Archetype]] (1448){{edit index|Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS Chart.A.558)}}<br/>by [[Dierk Hagedorn]]</p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS 26.236)|New York Version]] (1600s)<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS 26.236)|New York Version]] (1600s){{edit index|Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS 26.236)}}<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (2º Col.MS.Philos.61)|Göttingen Version]] (1600s)<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (2º Col.MS.Philos.61)|Göttingen Version]] (1600s){{edit index|Talhoffer Fechtbuch (2º Col.MS.Philos.61)}}<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.Guelf.125.16.Extrav.)|Wolfenbüttel Version]] (1600s)<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.Guelf.125.16.Extrav.)|Wolfenbüttel Version]] (1600s){{edit index|Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.Guelf.125.16.Extrav.)}}<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Sammelhandschrift (2º MS iurid. 29)|Kassel Version]] (1600s)<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Sammelhandschrift (2º MS iurid. 29)|Kassel Version]] (1600s){{edit index|Talhoffer Sammelhandschrift (2º MS iurid. 29)}}<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.icon.395)|Munich Version]] (ca.1820)<br/></p>
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! <p>[[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.icon.395)|Munich Version]] (ca.1820){{edit index|Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.icon.395)}}<br/></p>
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| [[File:MS Chart.A.558 116v.jpg|300px|center]]
 
| A beginning, with same grasping of the arms.
 
| A beginning, with same grasping of the arms.
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| '''[116v]''' Ain an hebung czw gleichm~ fassen auß den armen
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| This is a strike, to come at the man.
 
| This is a strike, to come at the man.
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| '''[117r]''' Das ist ain abslahen czw komen an den man
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| This is the hip-wrestle by the neck.
 
| This is the hip-wrestle by the neck.
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| '''[117v]''' Das ist das hueff ringen beÿ dem hals
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| This is a break against the hip wrestle by the neck.
 
| This is a break against the hip wrestle by the neck.
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| '''[118r]''' Das ist der bruch vber das hueff ringen pey dem hals
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| The arm close over the hip.
 
| The arm close over the hip.
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| '''[118v]''' Das arm~ slyssen vber dy hueff
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| This is an advance to grasp the same leg.
 
| This is an advance to grasp the same leg.
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| '''[119r]''' Das ist das dringen pey dem pain zu gleichm~ fassen
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| This is the forward step when equal in grasp.
 
| This is the forward step when equal in grasp.
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| '''[119v]''' Das ist das fur treten czw gleichem fassen
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| He who presses you, throw over your head like so.
 
| He who presses you, throw over your head like so.
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| '''[120r]''' Wer dich tringt den burf vber das haubt also
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| This is the slip-through outside of the leg.
 
| This is the slip-through outside of the leg.
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| '''[120v]''' Das ist das durch sliffen aussen pey dem pain
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| This is the slip-through inside of the leg.
 
| This is the slip-through inside of the leg.
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| '''[121r]''' Das ist das durch sliffen In wen dem pain
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| That is the wrong slip-through when back to back.
 
| That is the wrong slip-through when back to back.
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| '''[121v]''' Das ist das ebich durch sliffen ruck an ruck
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| The limb breaking at the outside of the arm.
 
| The limb breaking at the outside of the arm.
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| '''[122r]''' Das glit prechen aussen an den arm~
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| This is the break against the slip-through on the outside of the leg, grasp to send him into a vertigo spin.
 
| This is the break against the slip-through on the outside of the leg, grasp to send him into a vertigo spin.
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| '''[122v]''' Das ist der bruech vber das durch sliffñ aussen an dem pain faß In in dy swindel wait
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| This is the break against the slip-through inside the leg.
 
| This is the break against the slip-through inside the leg.
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| '''[123r]''' Das ist der bruch vb° das durch sliffñ In an dem pain
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| Right against right left against left.
 
| Right against right left against left.
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| '''[123v]''' Recht gein recht glinck gein glinck
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| This is the break against the slip-through the outside at the leg, grasp to send him into a vertigo spin.
 
| This is the break against the slip-through the outside at the leg, grasp to send him into a vertigo spin.
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| '''[124r]''' Das ist der pruch vber das durch sliffen aussen an dem pain faß In In dy swindel wag
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| This is the hurl by the arm.
 
| This is the hurl by the arm.
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| '''[124v]''' Das sit das sleuderñ pey dem arm~
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| This is the step-behind in the arm where you press.
 
| This is the step-behind in the arm where you press.
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| '''[125r]''' Das ist das hintter tretten In dem arme~ wer dich truckt
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| How to push away from you when someone closes in.
 
| How to push away from you when someone closes in.
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| '''[125v]''' Das von dir stossen wer in dich dringt
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| This is the vertigo spin when you raise him.
 
| This is the vertigo spin when you raise him.
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| '''[126r]''' Da hat die swindel wag ain end
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| This is the ending of the vertigo spin.
 
| This is the ending of the vertigo spin.
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| '''[126v]''' Da hat die swindel wag ain end
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| This is the knee kick against the limb.
 
| This is the knee kick against the limb.
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| '''[127r]''' Das ist das knye ab tretten wider das glit
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| This is the arm break against the shoulder.
 
| This is the arm break against the shoulder.
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| '''[127v]''' Das ist das arm~ ab prechen vber dy achsel
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| One should play on a board like this.
 
| One should play on a board like this.
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| '''[128r]''' Also sol man auff aim In dem pret spilen
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| The twist at the arm.
 
| The twist at the arm.
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| '''[128v]''' Das vmb dreen bey dem arm~
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| The French Wrestling.
 
| The French Wrestling.
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| '''[129r]''' Das franczosis ringen
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| This is how to go through back to back.
 
| This is how to go through back to back.
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| '''[129v]''' Das ist das mit durch gen ruck ruck an
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| Back to back is finished.
 
| Back to back is finished.
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| '''[130r]''' Ruck an rück hat ein end
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| This is the defense against a hard press.
 
| This is the defense against a hard press.
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| '''[130v]''' Das ist al pruch vber hart trücken
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| How the man who is caught throws two.
 
| How the man who is caught throws two.
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| '''[131r]''' Wye ainer czwen sol werffen den man gefangñ fürt
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| That is how one should close one arm with both arms.
 
| That is how one should close one arm with both arms.
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| '''[131v]''' Das ist das wie man aim ain arm~ sol slissen mit payden arm~
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| That is how you can close in with the elbow in his shoulder.
 
| That is how you can close in with the elbow in his shoulder.
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| '''[132r]''' Das ist wie man aim sol enfaln mit dem elpogen In sein achsel glit
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| That is the defense when one has the leg on the others arm.
 
| That is the defense when one has the leg on the others arm.
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| '''[132v]''' Das ist der bruch wen ainer hat das pain auff der achsel
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Revision as of 20:22, 23 June 2020

Personal Edition
MS Chart.A.558 027r.jpg
Hans Talhoffer is welcomed as he arrives at a town
to do a job (folio 27r).
Author(s) Hans Talhoffer
Illustrated by Unknown
Date 1448
Genre
Language Early New High German
Archetype(s) MS Chart.A.558
Manuscript(s)

The archetype of this version of Hans Talhoffer's fencing manual, the MS Chart.A.558, was created in 1448 and used as a personal reference manual for Talhoffer himself.[citation needed] It exists in at least six additional manuscript copies created before 1820 and was published in facsimile by Gustav Hergsell in 1889. Only the grappling portion of this version contains text and will be compiled below; the uncaptioned images may be viewed on the individual manual pages.

Treatise

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