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− | ! Notes | + | ! style="width:24em !important" | Notes |
− | ! Transcription | + | ! style="width:24em !important" | Transcription |
− | ! [[Hans Talhoffer]] | + | ! style="width:24em !important" | [[Hans Talhoffer]] |
− | ! [[Paulus Kal]] | + | ! style="width:24em !important" | [[Paulus Kal]] |
− | ! [[Cluny Fechtbuch (Cl. 23842)]] | + | ! style="width:24em !important" | [[Cluny Fechtbuch (Cl. 23842)]] |
− | ! [[Peter Falkner]] | + | ! style="width:24em !important" | [[Peter Falkner]] |
− | ! [[Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)|Glasgow Fechtbuch]] | + | ! style="width:24em !important" | [[Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)|Glasgow Fechtbuch]] |
− | ! [[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Goliath]] | + | ! style="width:24em !important" | [[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Goliath]] |
− | ! [[Jörg Wilhalm]] | + | ! style="width:24em !important" | [[Jörg Wilhalm]] |
− | ! [[Hans Medel]] | + | ! style="width:24em !important" | [[Hans Medel]] |
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wind, thrust. If he sees that, take it down. | wind, thrust. If he sees that, take it down. | ||
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double above,<br/> | double above,<br/> | ||
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− | | | + | | {{r!-|'''K'''r}}ump auff behende<br/>{{r!|w}}irff dein ort auff dye hende |
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− | + | Crooked on him with nimbleness,<br/>throw the point on the hands. | |
− | throw the point on the hands. | ||
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− | | | + | | {{r!|k}}rump wer wol setzt {{red|~}}<br/>{{r!|b=1|{{reddot}}M{{reddot}}}}it schriten vil haw letzt |
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− | + | Who performs the crooked well,<br/>with stepping he hinders many a stroke. | |
− | with stepping he hinders many a stroke. | ||
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