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If someone has hold of you under both arms, then hit him with your right arm under his left one, and set your arm on his chest, and throw him away from you. | If someone has hold of you under both arms, then hit him with your right arm under his left one, and set your arm on his chest, and throw him away from you. | ||
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Loop your left arm around his neck, lift him high on your left leg and throw him on your right side. | Loop your left arm around his neck, lift him high on your left leg and throw him on your right side. | ||
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Seize his right hand with your left one, pass all the way under his raised right arm so that you reach his back ('''durchlaufen'''), take him by the right leg with your right hand and throw him over you. | Seize his right hand with your left one, pass all the way under his raised right arm so that you reach his back ('''durchlaufen'''), take him by the right leg with your right hand and throw him over you. | ||
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Take hold of his right arm with both hands, pass through under his right arm to his back and throw him over you. | Take hold of his right arm with both hands, pass through under his right arm to his back and throw him over you. | ||
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When you close in, bend down. Take him by one leg, tear/pull it upwards and hit/kick him with your left, then he will fall. | When you close in, bend down. Take him by one leg, tear/pull it upwards and hit/kick him with your left, then he will fall. | ||
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In closing in, seize both of his arms and punch him with the head against his chest, then he will fall on his back. | In closing in, seize both of his arms and punch him with the head against his chest, then he will fall on his back. | ||
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If he takes hold of you by the shoulders, then hit upwards with your hand from below and force his arms apart. And take hold of him to wrestle, with whichever piece you prefer. | If he takes hold of you by the shoulders, then hit upwards with your hand from below and force his arms apart. And take hold of him to wrestle, with whichever piece you prefer. | ||
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Take hold of him with both hands from underneath, and place your elbows in both of his arms. And punch him with the head against the chest, and seize him at both legs. | Take hold of him with both hands from underneath, and place your elbows in both of his arms. And punch him with the head against the chest, and seize him at both legs. | ||
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Take him by both his hands and throw him on his back. (?) | Take him by both his hands and throw him on his back. (?) | ||
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Check in your running how you approach him. Take his right arm with both of your hands, pass through underneath to his back, and break his arm. | Check in your running how you approach him. Take his right arm with both of your hands, pass through underneath to his back, and break his arm. | ||
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If you close in and take hold of him by the chest, and he you, then hit his arm away and punch with your left hand behind his left arm. Seize him by the leg with your right hand and throw him. | If you close in and take hold of him by the chest, and he you, then hit his arm away and punch with your left hand behind his left arm. Seize him by the leg with your right hand and throw him. | ||
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If he takes hold of you by the arm and you take hold of him in like fashion, then let go of his right arm. And seize him by the left arm through between his legs, and lift him on your shoulder. And throw him as you please. | If he takes hold of you by the arm and you take hold of him in like fashion, then let go of his right arm. And seize him by the left arm through between his legs, and lift him on your shoulder. And throw him as you please. | ||
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If he seizes you under the shoulders, then punch his arm away from you with your right hand and seize him then and wrestle. | If he seizes you under the shoulders, then punch his arm away from you with your right hand and seize him then and wrestle. | ||
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MS Dresd.C.487, Sächsische Landesbibliothek Dresden, Germany | |||||
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Date | 1504-1519 (?) | ||||
Language(s) | Early New High German | ||||
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Compiler | Unknown | ||||
Material | Paper | ||||
Size | 126 folia | ||||
Format | Double-sided, with black and red ink | ||||
Script | Bastarda | ||||
External data | Library catalog entry | ||||
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Johan Liechtnawers Fechtbuch geschriebenn ("Johannes Liechtenauer's Written Fencing Book"; MS Dresden C 487) is a German fencing manual created between 1504 and 1519.[1] The original currently rests in the holdings of the Sächsische Landesbibliothek in Dresden, Germany. This manuscript is often wrongly attributed to Sigmund ain Ringeck, but although his gloss of Johannes Liechtenauer's Record forms a significant portion of the text, he is referred to in the third person in its introduction and was most likely not responsible for the manuscript itself. The rest of the manuscript consists of an assortment of treatises by several different masters who stood in the tradition of Johannes Liechtenauer, though unlike most such manuscripts, none of the individual treatises have attributions apart from Ringeck's.
Dating this manuscript has been problematic in the past, as writers have generally assumed that it was an autograph or archetype prepared for Ringeck himself and used assumptions about his life as a starting point.[2] Thus, in 1956 Martin Wierschin dated the manuscript to the first half of the 15th century and noted that it might date to as early as the late 14th century, based on the assumptions that it was a copy of the MS 3227a and that Ringeck was a direct student of Liechtenauer in the mid-late 14th century.[3] In 1985, Hans-Peter Hils postulated a date between 1438 and 1452, based on identifying the dedicatee with Albrecht III of Bavaria and assuming it was the source for the Cod. 44.A.8.[4] However, while the original text of Ringeck's gloss may indeed date to the 15th century, in 2010 Werner J. Hoffmann arrived at the currently-accepted and much later date of this manuscript through watermark analysis.[1]
Contents
Provenance
The known provenance of the MS Dresden C.487 is:
- Created in Swabia or Bavaria using paper made between 1504 and 1519.[1]
- before 1755 – acquired by the Sächsische Landesbibliothek in Dresden, Germany.[5]
- 1755-present – held by the Sächsische Landesbibliothek.
Contents
1r - 2v |
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3r - 9v | Recital on long sword fencing by Johannes Liechtenauer | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
10v - 48v | Gloss of Liechtenauer's Recital on long sword fencing by Sigmund ain Ringeck | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
49r - 54r | Long sword fencing by Sigmund ain Ringeck | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
54r - 55v | Sword and Buckler by Andre Liegniczer | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
55v - 57r | Recital on long sword fencing by Johannes Liechtenauer (fragment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
57r - 59v |
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78r - 84r | Grappling by Ott Jud (fragment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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88r - 108r | Gloss of Liechtenauer's Recital on short sword fencing by Sigmund ain Ringeck | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
109r - 121v | Gloss of Liechtenauer's Recital on mounted fencing by Sigmund ain Ringeck (fragment) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
122r - 125v | Four displaced pages |
Gallery
Additional Resources
- Dürer, Albrecht and Wassmannsdorff, Karl. Die Ringkunst des deutschen Mittelalters. Liepzig: Priber, 1870.
- Jaquet, Daniel; Walczak, Bartłomiej. "Liegnitzer, Hundsfeld or Lew? The question of authorship of popular Medieval fighting teachings". Acta Periodica Duellatorum 2(1): 105-148. 2014. doi:10.1515/apd-2015-0015.
- Lindholm, David and Svard, Peter. Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly Art of the Longsword. Boulder, CO: Paladin Press, 2003. ISBN 978-1-58160-410-8
- Lindholm, David and Svard, Peter. Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly Arts of Combat. Boulder, CO: Paladin Press, 2006. ISBN 978-1-58160-499-3
- Tobler, Christian Henry. Secrets of German Medieval Swordsmanship. Highland Village, TX: Chivalry Bookshelf, 2001. ISBN 1-891448-07-2
- Wierschin, Martin. Meister Johann Liechtenauers Kunst des Fechtens. München: Beck, 1965.
References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 Werner J. Hoffmann. "Mscr.Dresd.C.487. Siegmund am Ringeck, Fechtlehre." Die deutschsprachigen mittelalterlichen Handschriften der Sächsischen Landesbibliothek - Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek (SLUB) Dresden. Vorläufige Beschreibungen. August, 2010. Retrieved 3 April 2015.
- ↑ See also Christian Henry Tobler. "Chicken and Eggs: Which Master Came First?" In Saint George's Name: An Anthology of Medieval German Fighting Arts. Wheaton, IL: Freelance Academy Press, 2010.
- ↑ Wierschin 12-13.
- ↑ Hils 54-57.
- ↑ Carl August Scheureck. Catalogus manuscriptorum Bibliothecae Electoralis. [manuscript]. Bibl.Arch.I.B, Vol.132. Dresden, Germany: Sächsische Landesbibliothek, 1755. p 59
- ↑ matches folz's text
- ↑ Corrected from »sinem«.
- ↑ Or I think its more likely that the word treten here is intended to convey kicking.
- ↑ This is a tricky word it could mean illegal breaks, unnatural breaks, or opposing breaks.
- ↑ I assume this means either armoured or armed.
- ↑ Corrected from »am«.
- ↑ “Wie wohl”.
- ↑ “zwir” means “Zweimal”.
- ↑ Wassmannsdorff (1870, 191, 1) tells us that “es ist ein Fehler, durch größere Anstrengung (hier: Wortreichthum) etwas zu Stande zu bringen, wofür eine geringere genügt.”
- ↑ “setz”?
- ↑ An ink stain has made part of the word illegible.
- ↑ “bei”.
- ↑ “berührt das Einlaufen”.
Copyright and License Summary
For further information, including transcription and translation notes, see the discussion page.
Work | Author(s) | Source | License |
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Images | Sächsische Landesbibliothek | ||
Translation | Keith Farrell | Academy of Historical Arts | |
Translation | Alex and Almirena | Master Sigmund Ringeck | |
Transcription | Dierk Hagedorn | Index:Johan Liechtnawers Fechtbuch geschriebenn (MS Dresd.C.487) |