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The mention of a certain "Nicolaus thum" on fol. 189r of Glasgow, Glasgow Museums, R. L. Scott Collection, E.1939.65.354 is definitely NOT the name of a fencing master. It is a colophon mentioning the scribe and the date of accomplishment of the text that has been copied into the fight book of Gregor Erhart alongside with the text. This name has nothing to do with the authorship of the Liechtenauer gloss that was copied. There is furthermore no indication that directly associates "Nicolaus thum" with Augsburg. I would therefore propose to change the title for "Gloss C" because the invention of a fencing master "Nicolaus" is misleading. Besides, the overlap of the copy in E.1939.65.354 with the most important specimen of this gloss is very thin. [23/11/09, Eric Burkart]
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Latest revision as of 11:31, 9 November 2023

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Translation Christian Trosclair Wiktenauer
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Vienna Transcription Dierk Hagedorn Index:Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS KK5126)
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Augsburg Transcription II Werner Ueberschär Index:Rast Fechtbuch (Reichsstadt "Schätze" Nr. 82)
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Augsburg Transcription I Dierk Hagedorn Index:Wilhalm/Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cod.I.6.2º.2)
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Munich Transcription I Filip Lampart and Martin Fabian Index:Jörg Wilhalm Hutters kunst zu Augspurg (Cgm 3711)
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Glasgow Transcription Index:Gregor Erhart Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.354)
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Munich Transcription II Index:Maister Liechtenawers Kunstbuech (Cgm 3712)
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Wolfenbüttel Transcription Kevin Maurer Index:Künnst zu fechten vonn David Lienhartt Sollinger (Cod.Guelf.38.21 Aug.2º)
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The mention of a certain "Nicolaus thum" on fol. 189r of Glasgow, Glasgow Museums, R. L. Scott Collection, E.1939.65.354 is definitely NOT the name of a fencing master. It is a colophon mentioning the scribe and the date of accomplishment of the text that has been copied into the fight book of Gregor Erhart alongside with the text. This name has nothing to do with the authorship of the Liechtenauer gloss that was copied. There is furthermore no indication that directly associates "Nicolaus thum" with Augsburg. I would therefore propose to change the title for "Gloss C" because the invention of a fencing master "Nicolaus" is misleading. Besides, the overlap of the copy in E.1939.65.354 with the most important specimen of this gloss is very thin. [23/11/09, Eric Burkart]