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In this table, all pages in the Cluny Fechtbuch long sword section are presented in order. Other pictures are placed around them based on resemblance to Cluny or their respective places in the gloss. In the case of Kal, Falkner, and Wilhalm, the text is disregarded if it contradicts the placement of the illustration in Cluny.
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The association of the ''Zettel'' with the Cluny illustrations is largely speculative. A few pages of Cluny quote the relevant Zettel passage, but other assignments are based on the Cluny's resemblance to other illustrations with firm ''Zettel'' associations, and the rest are filled in based on the assumption that the plays in Cluny follow the sequence of the ''Zettel''.
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The ''Zettel'' in the first column is quoted from the [[Starhemberg Fechtbuch (Cod.44.A.8)|Starhemberg Fechtbuch]] (since that's the one [[Christian Henry Tobler]]'s translation in that column is based on), and the second column contains the text of the Cluny as far as it can be deciphered. Both transcriptions are by [[Dierk Hagedorn]]. The parts of the ''Zettel'' that don't have any illustrations are still included so you can see where the gaps are.
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! style="width:20em;" | [[Cluny Fechtbook (Cl. 23842)]]
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! style="width:400px !important" | Transcription
! style="width:20em;" | [[Paulus Kal]]
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! style="width:350px !important" | [[Hans Talhoffer]] (Munich)
! style="width:20em;" | [[Peter Falkner]]
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! style="width:300px !important" | [[Paulus Kal]]
! style="width:20em;" | [[Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)]]
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! style="width:300px !important" | [[Cluny Fechtbuch (Cl. 23842)]]
! style="width:20em;" | [[Jörg Wilhalm Hutter]]
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! style="width:300px !important" | [[Peter Falkner]]
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! style="width:300px !important" | [[Jörg Wilhalm]]
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! style="width:300px !important" | [[Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)|Glasgow Fechtbuch]]
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! style="width:300px !important" | [[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Goliath]]
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| {{r!-|'''J'''un}}ck ritter lere<br/>{{r!|G}}ot lieb haben frawen Jo ere
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| {{r!|S}}o wechst dein ere<br/>{{r!|V}}be ritterschafft {{r!|v}}nd lere
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| {{r!|k}}unst dye dich zyret<br/>{{r!|v}}nd In kriegen zu eren hofiret
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| {{r!|R}}inges guet fesser<br/>{{r!|G}}lefen sper swert {{r!|v}}nd messer
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| {{r!|M}}andleich bederben<br/>{{r!|v}}nd In anderñ henden verderben
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| {{r!|H}}aw drein vnd hurrt dar<br/>{{r!|R}}ausch hin trif oder la far&ntilde;
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| {{r!|D}}as yn die weyssen<br/>Hassen {{r!|d}}ye mann sicht preysen
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| {{r!|D}}ar auff dich fasse<br/>{{r!|A}}lle kunst haben leng vnd masse
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| '''&middot;:'''~{{r!-|'''W'''}}ildu kunst schauen<br/>{{r!|S}}ich linck gen und recht mit hawen
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If you want to behold the art,<br/>
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See that you go on the left and strike with the right.
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| {{r!|V}}nd linck mit rechten<br/>{{r!|I}}st das du starck gerest vechten
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| <small>11</small>
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| {{r!|w}}er nach get hauen<br/>{{r!|D}}er darff sich kunst wenig fr&auml;wen
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He who follows the strokes,<br/>
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should rejoice little in his art.
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| {{r!|H}}aw nahent was du wild<br/>{{r!|k}}ain wechsl&auml;r kumpt an deinen schilt
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| <small>13</small>
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| {{r!|z}}w&deg; kopff zu&deg; leib<br/>{{r!|d}}&yuml;e zegt nicht verme&yuml;d
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| <small>14</small>
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| {{r!|M}}it gantzem leib<br/>vicht was du starck gerest tre&yuml;ben
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| <small>15</small>
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| {{r!|H}}&ouml;r was da slecht ist<br/>{{r!|V}}icht nicht oben linck {{r!|S}}o du recht pist
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| <small>16</small>
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| {{r!|V}}nd ab dw linck pist<br/>{{r!|I}}m rechten aug sere hinckes
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| <small>17</small>
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| {{r!|V}}or und nach dy zway ding<br/>{{r!|S}}ind aller kunst ain vrsprinck
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| <small>18</small>
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| {{r!|S}}wech vnd sterck<br/>{{r!|I}}nndes {{r!|D}}as wort do mit mit merck
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| <small>19</small>
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| {{r!|S}}o magstu lernen<br/>{{r!|M}}it kunst arbaitten vnd weren
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| <small>20</small>
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| {{r!|E}}rschrickstu gern<br/>{{r!|k}}ain vechten n&yuml;mmer geler&ntilde;
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| <small>21</small>
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| f{{r!|f}}&uuml;nff h&auml;w lere <br/>von der recht&ntilde; hant {{r!|w}}er dy were
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| <small>22</small>
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| denn wir geloben<br/>{{r!|I}}n kunsten ger&ntilde; zw&deg; lon
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| {{r!-|'''Z'''or}}&ntilde; haw krump twer<br/>{{r!|h}}at schiler mitt schaitlar
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| <small>24</small>
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| {{r!|A}}lber vorsetzt<br/>{{r!|N}}ach reysen vber lauff h&auml;w setzt
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| <small>25</small>
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| {{r!|D}}urch wechsel zuck<br/>{{r!|d}}urchlauff {{r!|A}}bschneid hende druck
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| <small>26</small>
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| {{r!|h}}eng wind mit pl&ouml;sen<br/>{{r!|S}}chlach vach streich stich mit st&ouml;ssen
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| <small>27</small>
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| {{r!-|{{reddot}}'''W'''{{reddot}}e}}r dir &ouml;berh&auml;wt<br/>{{r!|z}}or&ntilde;haw ort dem drawt
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Who strikes at you above,<br/>the Wrath stroke threatens him with the point.
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| Folio 14r
 
| [[file:MS CL23842 014r.jpg|300x300px|center]]
 
 
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| <small>28</small>
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| {{r!|w}}irt er es gewar<br/>{{r!|N}}&yuml;m oben ab &ouml;ne far
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If he becomes aware of it,<br/>take it away above without fear.
 
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| <small>29</small>
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| {{r!|P}}i&szlig; starck her wider<br/>{{r!|w}}ind stich sicht ers n&yuml;m es nyder
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Be strong against it;<br/>wind, thrust. If he sees that, take it down.
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(The first group take place on the right side of the bind, while the second group take place on the left as a continuation of the play of ''abnemen'')
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| <small>30</small>
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| {{r!|D}}as eben merck<br/>haw stich leger {{r!|w}}aich oder hert
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| <small>31</small>
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| Inndes {{r!|v}}nd var nach<br/>an h&uuml;rt {{r!|D}}ein krieg sey nicht gach
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| {{r!|W}}es der krieg {{r!|R}}empt<br/>oben n&yuml;den {{r!|w}}irt er beschempt
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| {{r!|I}}n allen winden<br/>{{r!|H}}aw stich schn&yuml;dt lere vinden
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Instantly, and Before and After.<br/>Your War should not be in haste.<br/>Who to the War tends above,<br/>gets ashamed below.<br/>In all winding<br/>learn to find stroke, thrust, and slice.
 
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| {{r!|I}}n allen treffen<br/>{{r!|d}}en maister&ntilde; wiltu sy effen ~
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| {{r!-|'''V'''ie}}r pl&ouml;ssen wisse<br/>{{r!|R}}eme so schlestu gewisse
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If you want to avenge yourself,<br/>break the four openings with skill:<br/>double above,<br/>transmute below correctly.<br/>I say to you truthfully:<br/>no one can defend himself without danger;<br/>If you have correctly learned,<br/>he will scarcely manage to strike.
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| <small>48</small>
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| {{r!-|Da}}s er nicht wei&szlig; vor war<br/>{{r!|w}}o er sey ane far
 +
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| {{r!-|'''T'''w}}er benympt<br/>{{r!|w}}as vom tag her ch&uuml;mpt
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| {{r!-|T}}wer mit der sterck<br/>{{r!|D}}ein arbait do mit me&deg;ck
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| {{r!-|Tw}}er zw dem pflueg<br/>{{r!|z}}w dem ochsen hart gef&uuml;g
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Thwart to the Plow;<br/>to the Ox hard together.
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| {{r!-|W}}as sich wol twert<br/>{{r!|m}}it spr&uuml;ngen dem haupt gevert
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He who thwarts well<br/>with springing he endangers the head.
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| <small>53</small>
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| {{r!-|Ve}}ler wer f&uuml;rt<br/>{{r!|V}}on vnden nach w&uuml;nscher rurt
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Whoever conducts the Failer<br/>from below he hits at his will.
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| {{r!-|Ve}}kerrer twingt<br/>{{r!|D}}urchl&auml;uffer auch mit ringt
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| <small>55</small>
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| {{r!-|de}}n elpogen {{r!|G}}ewi&szlig; n&yuml;m<br/>spring im in die wage
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The Reverser enforces the<br/>running through and also brings wrestling.<br/>The elbow take certainly,<br/>spring into his balance.
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| <small>56</small>
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| {{r!-|Ve}}ler zwifach<br/>{{r!|T}}rifft mann den schnit mit mach
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Double the Failer,<br/>if you hit, also make the slice.
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| {{r!|Z}}wifach es f&uuml;rpas<br/>{{r!-|Sch}}eitt in linck vnd pis nicht las ~
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Twice further on,<br/>step to the left and do not be slow.
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| {{r!-|'''S'''chi}}ler ain pricht<br/>{{r!|w}}as p&uuml;ffel slecht oder sticht
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| <small>59</small>
 +
| {{r!-|w}}er wechsel drawt<br/>{{r!|s}}chiler dar aus Inn beraubt
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The Squinter breaks into<br/>whatever a buffalo strikes or thrusts.<br/>Who threatens to change through,<br/>the Squinter robs him of it.
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| {{r!-|Sch}}il k&uuml;rtzt er dich an<br/>{{r!|D}}urch wechsel gesigt im an
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| <small>61</small>
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| {{r!-|Sch}}ill zw dem ort<br/>{{r!|v}}nd nym den hals ane vorcht
 +
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{{r!-|Sc}}hill zw&deg; dem &ouml;ber&ntilde;<br/>{{r!|h}}aubt hend wild du bed&ouml;ber&ntilde; {{red|~}}
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| {{r!-|'''D'''e}}r scheitlar<br/>dem antl&uuml;tzt ist gevar
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| <small>64</small>
 +
| {{r!|M}}it seiner kar<br/>{{r!-|de}}r pr&uuml;st vast gefer
 +
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The Scalper<br/>is a danger to the face,<br/>with its turn,<br/>very dangerous to the breast.
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| <small>65</small>
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| {{r!|w}}as von &yuml;m k&uuml;mpt<br/>{{r!|D}}&yuml; kron das abnympt
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| {{r!|S}}chneid durch dye kron<br/>{{r!|S}}o prichstu sye hart schon
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Slice through the Crown,<br/>thus you will break it hard through.
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| {{r!|D}}&yuml;e striche druck<br/>{{r!|M}}it schn&yuml;tten s&yuml; ab zuck {{red|~}}
 +
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 +
Press the strokes,<br/>with slices pull them away.
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| {{r!-|'''V'''ie}}r leger allain<br/>{{r!|D}}a von halt {{r!|v}}nd fleuch dye gemain
 +
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| <small>69</small>
 +
| {{r!|O}}chs pflueg alber<br/>{{r!|v}}om tag sey dir nicht unm&auml;r {{red|~}}
 +
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Four guards alone hold;<br/>
 +
and disdain the common.<br/>
 +
Ox, Plow, Fool,<br/>
 +
From the Roof should not be unknown to you.
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| {{r!-|'''V'''ie}}r sind vor setzen<br/>{{r!|d}}ye d&yuml; leger auch sere letzen
 +
|-
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| <small>71</small>
 +
| {{r!|V}}or fursetzen h&uuml;ett dich<br/>{{r!|G}}eschicht das auch ser es m&uuml;t dich
 +
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| <small>72</small>
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| {{r!|O}}b dir vor setzt ist<br/>{{r!|v}}nd wie das dar ch&ouml;men ist
 +
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| <small>73</small>
 +
| {{r!|H}}&ouml;r {{r!|w}}as ich dir ratte<br/>{{r!|R}}ei&szlig; ab haw schnell mit drate
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
 
 +
If you are parried<br/>and when that has happened,<br/>hear what I advise to you:<br/>Tear away and strike quickly with surprise.
 +
 
 +
(Danzig then Ringeck)
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 +
| <small>74</small>
 +
| {{r!|S}}etz an vier enden<br/>pleib dar auff lere wildu enden
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
 
 +
Set upon the four ends.<br/>Stay upon them, learn if you want to bring it to an end.
 +
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Ringeck ansetzen
 +
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 +
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 +
| <small>75</small>
 +
| {{r!-|'''N'''{{reddot}}a}}ch raisen lere<br/>{{r!|z}}wifach oder scheneid in die were
 +
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 +
 
 +
 
 +
Learn the chasing<br/>twice, or slice into the weapon.
 +
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| Folio 31v
 
| [[file:MS CL23842 031v.jpg|300x300px|center]]
 
 
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|  
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 +
|-
 +
| <small>76</small>
 +
| {{r!|z}}way ewssere mynne<br/>der arbait dar nach beg&yuml;nne
 +
|-
 +
| <small>77</small>
 +
| {{r!|v}}nd pr&uuml;ff d&yuml;e gefert<br/>{{r!|O}}b s&yuml; sind {{r!|w}}aich oder hert
 +
|-
 +
| <small>78</small>
 +
| {{r!|D}}as ful&ntilde; lere<br/>{{r!|I}}nndes das wort schneidet sere
 +
|}
 +
 +
 +
Two outer intentions.<br/>The work after that begins.<br/>And test the attacks<br/>if they are soft or hard.<br/>Learn the feeling.<br/>The word Instantly slices sharply.
 
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|- style="vertical-align:top;"
 
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
| Folio 32r
 
| [[file:MS CL23842 032r.jpg|300x300px|center]]
 
 
|  
 
|  
 +
{| class="zettel"
 +
|-
 +
| <small>79</small>
 +
| {{r!|N}}ach ra&yuml;sen zwifach<br/>{{r!|T}}rifft mann den alten schnit mit mach {{red|~}}
 +
|}
 +
 +
 +
Travel-after twofold.<br/>One hits, make with the Ancient Slice.
 +
 +
 +
(Cluny text is possibly a version of "oder val im mit der langen schneid auff sein arm~" from Danzig.)
 +
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 +
|
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| [[File:MS E.1939.65.341 013v.jpg|200px|center]]
 +
| [[File:MS Germ.Quart.2020 047r.jpg|200px|center]]
 
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|  
  
 
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
 
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
| Folio 32v
 
| [[file:MS CL23842 032v.jpg|300x300px|center]]
 
 
|  
 
|  
 +
{| class="zettel"
 +
|-
 +
| <small>80</small>
 +
| {{r!-|{{reddot}}'''W'''{{reddot}}}}er vnnden rempt<br/>{{r!|v}}ber lauff denn der wirt beschempt
 +
|-
 +
| <small>81</small>
 +
| {{r!|w}}enn es klitzst oben<br/>{{r!|S}}o sterck das ger ich loben {{red|~}}
 +
|-
 +
| <small>82</small>
 +
| {{r!|D}}ein arbait mache<br/>{{r!|O}}der herte druck zwifache
 +
|}
 +
 +
 +
Who wants to strike below,<br/>overrun him, and he will be shamed.<br/>When it clashes above,<br/>then strengthen: this I truly do praise.<br/>Do your work,<br/>or press hard twice.
 +
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| [[File:Cod.I.6.2º.2 22r.jpg|200px|center]]
 +
| [[File:MS E.1939.65.341 014r.jpg|200px|center]]
 
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| Folio 33r
 
| [[file:MS CL23842 033r.jpg|300x300px|center|link=http://www.photo.rmn.fr/CorexDoc/RMN/Media/TR1/C7OZ4U/09-501173.jpg]]
 
 
|  
 
|  
 +
{| class="zettel"
 +
|-
 +
| <small>83</small>
 +
| {{r!-|'''L'''e}}re absetzen<br/>{{r!|h}}aw stich kunstlich letzen
 +
|-
 +
| <small>84</small>
 +
| {{r!|w}}er au&deg;ff dich sticht<br/>{{r!|D}}ein ort trifft {{r!|v}}nd seinen pricht
 +
|}
 +
 +
 +
Learn to set aside,<br/>To skillfully hinder stroke and thrust.<br/>Who thrusts at you,<br/>your point hits and counters his.
 +
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 +
| [[File:MS Germ.Quart.2020 048v.jpg|200px|center]]
 
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|- style="vertical-align:top;"
 
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| Folio 33v
+
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+
{| class="zettel"
 +
|-
 +
| <small>85</small>
 +
| {{r!|V}}on paiden seitten<br/>{{r!|T}}riff alle mal wiltu schreiten
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
 
 +
From both sides<br/>hit every time if you want to step.
 +
|
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| Folio 34r
 
| [[file:MS CL23842 034r.jpg|300x300px|center]]
 
 
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 +
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 +
|-
 +
| <small>86</small>
 +
| {{r!-|'''D'''u}}rchwechsel lere<br/>{{r!|v}}on paiden seitten stich mit sere
 +
|-
 +
| <small>87</small>
 +
| {{r!|W}}er auff dich pindet<br/>{{r!|d}}u&deg;rchwechsel In schier vindet
 +
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 +
 +
 +
Learn the changing through<br/>from both sides, thrust with intent.<br/>Whoever binds to you,<br/>changing through will find him indeed.
 +
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|- style="vertical-align:top;"
 
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| Folio 34v
 
| [[file:MS CL23842 034v.jpg|300x300px|center]]
 
 
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{| class="zettel"
 +
|-
 +
| <small>88</small>
 +
| {{r!-|'''T'''r}}it nahent Inn pinden<br/>{{r!|D}}as zucken gibt gu&deg;te f&uuml;nde
 +
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 +
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 +
Step close in binding.<br/>The pulling provides good finds.
 +
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|-
 +
| <small>89</small>
 +
| {{r!|Z}}uck trifft er {{r!|z}}uck mer<br/>Arbait erfinde {{r!|D}}as tu&deg;t ym we
 +
|-
 +
| <small>90</small>
 +
| {{r!|Z}}uck allen treffen<br/>{{r!|d}}en maister&ntilde; wiltu s&yuml; effen
 +
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 +
 
 +
 
 +
Pull - if he meets, pull more.<br/>Find the work that will hurt him.<br/>Pull in all encounters<br/>against the Masters, if you want to fool them.
 +
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 +
| <small>91</small>
 +
| {{r!-|'''D'''}}urchlauff las hangen<br/>{{r!|M}}it dein knopff greiff wiltu rangen
 +
|-
 +
| <small>92</small>
 +
| {{r!|W}}er gegen dir sterckt<br/>{{r!|d}}urchlauff do mit merck
 +
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 +
 
 +
 
 +
Run through, let hang<br/>with the pommel. Grasp if you want to wrestle.<br/>Who comes strongly at you,<br/>the running through then remember.
 +
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There are two hangings<br/>from one side from the ground.<br/>In all attacks<br/>strike, thrust, posture—soft or hard.<br/>Do the Speaking Window,<br/>stand blithely and look at his actions.<br/>Strike him until he is defeated.<br/>When he withdraws from you,<br/>I say to you truthfully:<br/>no one protects himself without danger.<br/>If you have learned this,<br/>he can scarcely manage to strike.
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Latest revision as of 15:36, 8 May 2024

In this table, all pages in the Cluny Fechtbuch long sword section are presented in order. Other pictures are placed around them based on resemblance to Cluny or their respective places in the gloss. In the case of Kal, Falkner, and Wilhalm, the text is disregarded if it contradicts the placement of the illustration in Cluny.

The association of the Zettel with the Cluny illustrations is largely speculative. A few pages of Cluny quote the relevant Zettel passage, but other assignments are based on the Cluny's resemblance to other illustrations with firm Zettel associations, and the rest are filled in based on the assumption that the plays in Cluny follow the sequence of the Zettel.

The Zettel in the first column is quoted from the Starhemberg Fechtbuch (since that's the one Christian Henry Tobler's translation in that column is based on), and the second column contains the text of the Cluny as far as it can be deciphered. Both transcriptions are by Dierk Hagedorn. The parts of the Zettel that don't have any illustrations are still included so you can see where the gaps are.

Notes Transcription Hans Talhoffer (Munich) Paulus Kal Cluny Fechtbuch (Cl. 23842) Peter Falkner Jörg Wilhalm Glasgow Fechtbuch Goliath Hans Medel
1 Junck ritter lere
Got lieb haben frawen Jo ere
2 So wechst dein ere
Vbe ritterschafft vnd lere
3 kunst dye dich zyret
vnd In kriegen zu eren hofiret
4 Ringes guet fesser
Glefen sper swert vnd messer
5 Mandleich bederben
vnd In anderñ henden verderben
6 Haw drein vnd hurrt dar
Rausch hin trif oder la farñ
7 Das yn die weyssen
Hassen dye mann sicht preysen
8 Dar auff dich fasse
Alle kunst haben leng vnd masse
9 ·:~Wildu kunst schauen
Sich linck gen und recht mit hawen


If you want to behold the art,
See that you go on the left and strike with the right.

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10 Vnd linck mit rechten
Ist das du starck gerest vechten


And left to right,
is how you strongly want to fight.

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11 wer nach get hauen
Der darff sich kunst wenig fräwen


He who follows the strokes,
should rejoice little in his art.

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12 Haw nahent was du wild
kain wechslär kumpt an deinen schilt
13 zw° kopff zu° leib
dÿe zegt nicht vermeÿd
14 Mit gantzem leib
vicht was du starck gerest treÿben
15 Hör was da slecht ist
Vicht nicht oben linck So du recht pist
16 Vnd ab dw linck pist
Im rechten aug sere hinckes
17 Vor und nach dy zway ding
Sind aller kunst ain vrsprinck
18 Swech vnd sterck
Inndes Das wort do mit mit merck
19 So magstu lernen
Mit kunst arbaitten vnd weren
20 Erschrickstu gern
kain vechten nÿmmer gelerñ
21 ffünff häw lere
von der rechtñ hant wer dy were
22 denn wir geloben
In kunsten gerñ zw° lon
23 Zorñ haw krump twer
hat schiler mitt schaitlar
24 Alber vorsetzt
Nach reysen vber lauff häw setzt
25 Durch wechsel zuck
durchlauff Abschneid hende druck
26 heng wind mit plösen
Schlach vach streich stich mit stössen
27 ·W·er dir öberhäwt
zorñhaw ort dem drawt


Who strikes at you above,
the Wrath stroke threatens him with the point.

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28 wirt er es gewar
Nÿm oben ab öne far


If he becomes aware of it,
take it away above without fear.

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29 Piß starck her wider
wind stich sicht ers nÿm es nyder


Be strong against it;
wind, thrust. If he sees that, take it down.


(The first group take place on the right side of the bind, while the second group take place on the left as a continuation of the play of abnemen)

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30 Das eben merck
haw stich leger waich oder hert
31 Inndes vnd var nach
an hürt Dein krieg sey nicht gach
32 Wes der krieg Rempt
oben nÿden wirt er beschempt
33 In allen winden
Haw stich schnÿdt lere vinden


Instantly, and Before and After.
Your War should not be in haste.
Who to the War tends above,
gets ashamed below.
In all winding
learn to find stroke, thrust, and slice.

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34 Auch soltu mit
prufen Haw stich oder schnÿd
35 In allen treffen
den maisterñ wiltu sy effen ~
36 Vier plössen wisse
Reme so schlestu gewisse
37 An alle vare
An zweÿfel wie er geparr


Four openings know,
aim: so you hit certainly,
without any danger
without regard for how he acts;

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38 Wildu dich rechen
Dye vier plöss kunstlich prechen
39 Oben duplir
Nyden recht mutir
40 Ich sag fur war
Sich schützt kein man ane far
41 Hastu vernomen
zu slag mag er klain kummen


If you want to avenge yourself,
break the four openings with skill:
double above,
transmute below correctly.
I say to you truthfully:
no one can defend himself without danger;
If you have correctly learned,
he will scarcely manage to strike.

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42 Krump auff behende
wirff dein ort auff dye hende


Crooked on him with nimbleness,
throw the point on the hands.


(Kal follows Ringeck, Cluny follows Danzig/Lew)

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43 krump wer wol setzt ~
·M·it schriten vil haw letzt


Who performs the crooked well,
with stepping he hinders many a stroke.

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44 Haw krump zu° flechen
Den maisterñ wiltu sy swechen
45 wenn es glitzst oben
So stand ab das wil ich loben


Hew crooked to the flats of
The masters if you wish to weaken them.
When it sparks above
So stand aside, that I will laud.

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46 krump nit ku kurtz haw
Durch wechsel do mit schaw


Crooked not, Short-hew.
Changing-through therewith show.

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47 krump wer dich Irret
Der edel kriegk in vor wirret
48 Das er nicht weiß vor war
wo er sey ane far


Strike crooked to who irritates you,
the Noble War will confuse him,
That he will not know truthfully
where he can be without danger.

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49 Twer benympt
was vom tag her chümpt


The Thwart Stroke takes
whatever comes from the roof.

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Counter to the Zwerch

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50 Twer mit der sterck
Dein arbait do mit me°ck


Thwart with the strong,
note your work with this.

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51 Twer zw dem pflueg
zw dem ochsen hart gefüg


Thwart to the Plow;
to the Ox hard together.

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Counter

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52 Was sich wol twert
mit sprüngen dem haupt gevert


He who thwarts well
with springing he endangers the head.

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53 Veler wer fürt
Von vnden nach wünscher rurt


Whoever conducts the Failer
from below he hits at his will.

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Counter

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54 Vekerrer twingt
Durchläuffer auch mit ringt
55 den elpogen Gewiß nÿm
spring im in die wage


The Reverser enforces the
running through and also brings wrestling.
The elbow take certainly,
spring into his balance.

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Counter

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56 Veler zwifach
Trifft mann den schnit mit mach


Double the Failer,
if you hit, also make the slice.

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Counter

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57 Zwifach es fürpas
Scheitt in linck vnd pis nicht las ~


Twice further on,
step to the left and do not be slow.

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Counter

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58 Schiler ain pricht
was püffel slecht oder sticht
59 wer wechsel drawt
schiler dar aus Inn beraubt


The Squinter breaks into
whatever a buffalo strikes or thrusts.
Who threatens to change through,
the Squinter robs him of it.

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Counter

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Alternative

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60 Schil kürtzt er dich an
Durch wechsel gesigt im an


Squint when he is short against you,
changing through defeats him.

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61 Schill zw dem ort
vnd nym den hals ane vorcht


Squint to the point,
and take the throat without fear.

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Counter

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62

Schill zw° dem öberñ
haubt hend wild du bedöberñ ~


Squint to the head above
if you want to damage the hands.

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63 Der scheitlar
dem antlützt ist gevar
64 Mit seiner kar
der prüst vast gefer


The Scalper
is a danger to the face,
with its turn,
very dangerous to the breast.

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65 was von ÿm kümpt
Dÿ kron das abnympt


Whatever comes from him,
the Crown will take it.

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66 Schneid durch dye kron
So prichstu sye hart schon


Slice through the Crown,
thus you will break it hard through.

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67 Dÿe striche druck
Mit schnÿtten sÿ ab zuck ~


Press the strokes,
with slices pull them away.

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68 Vier leger allain
Da von halt vnd fleuch dye gemain
69 Ochs pflueg alber
vom tag sey dir nicht unmär ~


Four guards alone hold;
and disdain the common.
Ox, Plow, Fool,
From the Roof should not be unknown to you.

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70 Vier sind vor setzen
dye dÿ leger auch sere letzen
71 Vor fursetzen hüett dich
Geschicht das auch ser es müt dich
72 Ob dir vor setzt ist
vnd wie das dar chömen ist
73 Hör was ich dir ratte
Reiß ab haw schnell mit drate


If you are parried
and when that has happened,
hear what I advise to you:
Tear away and strike quickly with surprise.

(Danzig then Ringeck)

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Counter

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Another counter against the parrying

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74 Setz an vier enden
pleib dar auff lere wildu enden


Set upon the four ends.
Stay upon them, learn if you want to bring it to an end.

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Ringeck ansetzen

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75 N·ach raisen lere
zwifach oder scheneid in die were


Learn the chasing
twice, or slice into the weapon.

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76 zway ewssere mynne
der arbait dar nach begÿnne
77 vnd prüff dÿe gefert
Ob sÿ sind waich oder hert
78 Das fulñ lere
Inndes das wort schneidet sere


Two outer intentions.
The work after that begins.
And test the attacks
if they are soft or hard.
Learn the feeling.
The word Instantly slices sharply.

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79 Nach raÿsen zwifach
Trifft mann den alten schnit mit mach ~


Travel-after twofold.
One hits, make with the Ancient Slice.


(Cluny text is possibly a version of "oder val im mit der langen schneid auff sein arm~" from Danzig.)

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80 ·W·er vnnden rempt
vber lauff denn der wirt beschempt
81 wenn es klitzst oben
So sterck das ger ich loben ~
82 Dein arbait mache
Oder herte druck zwifache


Who wants to strike below,
overrun him, and he will be shamed.
When it clashes above,
then strengthen: this I truly do praise.
Do your work,
or press hard twice.

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83 Lere absetzen
haw stich kunstlich letzen
84 wer au°ff dich sticht
Dein ort trifft vnd seinen pricht


Learn to set aside,
To skillfully hinder stroke and thrust.
Who thrusts at you,
your point hits and counters his.

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85 Von paiden seitten
Triff alle mal wiltu schreiten


From both sides
hit every time if you want to step.

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86 Durchwechsel lere
von paiden seitten stich mit sere
87 Wer auff dich pindet
du°rchwechsel In schier vindet


Learn the changing through
from both sides, thrust with intent.
Whoever binds to you,
changing through will find him indeed.

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88 Trit nahent Inn pinden
Das zucken gibt gu°te fünde


Step close in binding.
The pulling provides good finds.

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89 Zuck trifft er zuck mer
Arbait erfinde Das tu°t ym we
90 Zuck allen treffen
den maisterñ wiltu sÿ effen


Pull - if he meets, pull more.
Find the work that will hurt him.
Pull in all encounters
against the Masters, if you want to fool them.

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91 Durchlauff las hangen
Mit dein knopff greiff wiltu rangen
92 Wer gegen dir sterckt
durchlauff do mit merck


Run through, let hang
with the pommel. Grasp if you want to wrestle.
Who comes strongly at you,
the running through then remember.

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93 Schneid ab dÿ herten
von vnden in baiden geferten
94 Vier sind der schnÿdt
Zwen vnden zwen oben mit
94 Dein schneid wende
zw flechen druck dÿe hende


Slice off the hard ones,
from below in both attacks.
Four are the slices:
two below and two above.
Turn your edge,
press the hands to the flats.

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96 Zwaÿ hengen werden
Aus ein° hant von der erden
97 In allem geferte
Haw stich leger waich oder herte
98 Sprechfenster mach
Stant freileich besich sein sache
99 Slach in das er schnobe
wer sich fur dir zeuhet abe
100 Ich sag dir für war
Sich schütz kain man ane far
101 Hastu vernum~en
zu slag mag er clain kummen


There are two hangings
from one side from the ground.
In all attacks
strike, thrust, posture—soft or hard.
Do the Speaking Window,
stand blithely and look at his actions.
Strike him until he is defeated.
When he withdraws from you,
I say to you truthfully:
no one protects himself without danger.
If you have learned this,
he can scarcely manage to strike.


These four are labeled "nichs", which means "nothing", so maybe they're not intended to fit into the zettel at all. But they might be depictions of the hanger teachings. The first matches Falkner's Sprechfenster.

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102 Wer wol fürt vnd recht pricht
vnd endlich gar bericht
103 vnd pricht besunder
Igleichs in dreÿ wunder
104 wer recht wol henget
vnd winden do mit pringet
105 Vñ winden acht
Mit rechtñ wegen betracht
106 vnd io[?] ir eine
Der selben winden selbdritt ich meine
107 So sind ir zwaintzigk
vnd vier zell sÿ antzigk
108 von paiden seittñ
Acht winden lere mit schreiten
109 Vnd pruef dÿe gefert
Nicht mer nür waich oder hert


Notes Transcription Hans Talhoffer (Munich) Paulus Kal Cluny Fechtbuch (Cl. 23842) Peter Falkner Jörg Wilhalm Glasgow Fechtbuch Goliath Hans Medel

"Here begin Peter's pieces: the sword-taking with counters and grappling. This is painted according to the Recital, or according to the Running Through [found in?] the Recital."

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