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Talhoffer Fechtbuch
	Cod.Guelf.125.16.Extrav., Herzog August Bibliothek; Wolfenbüttel, Germany
Type	Fencing manual ; Wrestling manual ;
Date	late 1600s
Language(s)	Early New High German
Author(s)	Hans Talhoffer
Scribe(s)	Unknown
Illustrator(s)	Unknown
Material	Paper
Size	46 folia
Format	Double-sided, illustrations on the recto ; side
Script	Cursive
Exemplar(s)	MS Ⅰ.33 (1320s) ; 2º Col. MS philos. 61 (?) (1600s) ;
External data	Library catalog entry
Treatise scans	Digital images (1700x2250)

Latest revision as of 20:05, 27 October 2023

The Cod. Guelf. 125.16 Extrav. is a 17th century manuscript assumed to be related to the 2º Col. MS philos. 61 (either an earlier draft or a later copy),^[1] a German fencing manual based on treatises by Hans Talhoffer. The original currently rests in the holdings of Herzog August Bibliothek in Wolfenbüttel, Germany. Aside from the writings of Talhoffer, the work is also significant due to its reference to the MS Ⅰ.33, to which the scribe appears to have had access.^[2]

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Images	No Translation	Transcription [edit] by Dierk Hagedorn
		[42r] Damit folgende blätter nicht leer bleiben, sind nachgesetzte figuren, welche zur erleütterung der vorherstehenden dienen können, angeführet worden. [42v] In solchem Harnisch sindt die Kämpffer, wenn sie mit dem Schwerdt kämpffen wollen erschienen, und weil der grießwartte auch einen kleinen spieß mit sich Träget, so gebens die Figuren in Talhöffers Fechtbuche, daß die Kämpffer auch die spieße auff einander geschossen mit den Schwerdten pariret, und nachgehends erst gekampffet.
		[43r] Figur des inwendigen Schildes, dessen durchgehendes stängelein die Kämpffer ergrieffen und damit den Schildt ^[3] regieret. Figur des außwendigen Schildes.
		[43v] Dieser schild ist auff denen Ecken ausgeschweiffet, und haben die Kämpffer einander darmit an Köpffen oder Hälsen, Armen und beinen, anfassen und zu boden oder zu sich reissen können.

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Images	Complete Translation by Dierk Hagedorn	Transcription [edit] by Dierk Hagedorn
	This figure shows that the clerics and monks were educated in the martial arts, for there is an entire manuscript on parchment in which the lessons are described in Latin, although quite illegible. The text that accompanies the one with the bald head—or the instructor—says "Sacerdos", the one accompanying the other person says "Scholaris".	[44r] Diese Figur zeiget an daß auch die Clerici und münche in der Kampff kunst unterrichtet worden. Denn es ist ein gantz Msc. auff pergmen, darinnen die Lectiones alle in latein aber gar unleserlich beschrieben, vorhanden und stehet bey dem in der blatten oder dem lehrmeister alle zeit das wordt Sacerdos, und bey der andern person das Wortt Scholaris.
	Such small shields (or how shall I call them?) are called "bucklers" by Talhoffer. And the noble clerics and those who fought with the messer or the short sword have used them for parrying.	[44v] Solche kleine schildgen, oder wie ich es nennen soll, werden bey den Talhöver Buckeller genenet, und haben solche die Herrn Clerici und die mit dem messer oder kurtzen schwerden gefochten zum pariren gebrauchet.

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References

↑ Hils, Hans-Peter. Meister Johann Liechtenauers Kunst des langen Schwertes. Peter Lang, 1985. p134.
↑ See folio 45r; compare MS Ⅰ.33, folio 26r.
↑ Unleserliche Streichung. Illegible deletion.

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Work	Author(s)	Source
Images	Herzog August Bibliothek	Herzog August Bibliothek
Translation	Dierk Hagedorn	Wiktenauer
Transcription	Dierk Hagedorn	Index:Talhoffer Fechtbuch (Cod.Guelf.125.16.Extrav.)

[1] Hils, Hans-Peter. Meister Johann Liechtenauers Kunst des langen Schwertes. Peter Lang, 1985. p134.

[2] See folio 45r; compare MS Ⅰ.33, folio 26r.

[3] Unleserliche Streichung. Illegible deletion.

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-The '''Codex Guelf 125.16 Extravagantes''' is a 17th century manuscript assumed to be related to the [[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (2º Cod.MS.Philos.61)|2º Codex MS Philos. 61]] (either an earlier draft or a later copy),<ref>[[Hans-Peter Hils|Hils, Hans-Peter]]. ''Meister Johann Liechtenauers Kunst des langen Schwertes''. Peter Lang, 1985. p134.</ref> a [[nationality::German]] [[fencing manual]] based on treatises by [[Hans Talhoffer]]. The original currently rests in the holdings of [[Herzog August Bibliothek]] in Wolfenbüttel, Germany. Aside from the writings of Talhoffer, the work is also significant due to its reference to the [[Walpurgis Fechtbuch (MS I.33)|MS I.33]], to which the scribe appears to have had access.<ref>See [[:File:Cod.Guelf.125.16.Extrav. 45r.jpg|folio 45r]]; cmpare [[Walpurgis Fechtbuch (MS I.33)|MS I.33]], folio [[commons:File:Ms I33 fol 26r.jpg|26r]].</ref>
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