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| The Book of Feats of Arms and Chivalry
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| Jaime Pons de Perpiñan
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| '''Jaime Pons de Perpiñan''' was a 15th century Spanish fencing master. According to various sources he was born in Majorca, but eventually moved to Perpiñan, where he is credited with publishing a fencing manual in 1474, which is presumed to have been written in Catalan. (Given the early date, this was probably a manuscript and not a published work in the modern sense.) Unfortunately, no extant copies of his work are known today, but there are references to him and his swordsmanship in later works, along with his contemporary, Pedro de la Torre, and the later Francisco Román.
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| https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=epXQh7B1w20C
  
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"The work is a minimum of 66 folios long, and covers sword and buckler, montante, sword and dagger, sword and cloak, dagger alone, trips and disarms (including one named “quail's wing”), and sword alone against spear or pike. Sword and buckler appears on the first page and throughout the pages referenced, so it is possibly the primary weapon combination. There does not appear to be a clear separation of instruction by weapon or combination based on the references. Two postures are taught, one high and one low, which are also used to invite attacks."
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_de_Pizan
  
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Compilation of references by Tim Rivera: http://spanishsword.org/files/references.pons.pdf
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http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8448959c
  
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| "Little is known about this 15th century maestro, but his treatise on fencing is one of the oldest known detailing a style of Iberian swordplay. It is also important for being a possible origin for the Iberian method of fighting with two swords. Any surviving copies of this work have not yet been located. The year of publication is cited in other works as 1474.
 
  
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"This work is at least 124 folios long, and is separated into at least two parts. Folio 58 is cited as being in chapter three, so it is likely that the second part starts before then. The treatise covers sword alone, dagger alone, sword and shield, montante, sword and cloak, two swords, sword and dagger, and sword alone against spear. Sword alone is likely the principal weapon, as it is called the queen of weapons. The two-sword method was created by the author. There are four principal guards: one at each shoulder and hip."
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http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b84489727
  
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Compilation of references by Tim Rivera: http://spanishsword.org/files/references.delatorre.pdf
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http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8448955q
  
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http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9058872d
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| ''De Arte Gladiatoria Dimicandi''
 
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| [[Philippo di Vadi]]
 
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| Vatican Library
 
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| Possible second copy of [[De Arte Gladiatoria Dimicandi (Cod.1324)]]
 
  
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http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8449705f
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http://google.com/books/reader?id=hb1AAAAAcAAJ&pg=GBS.PA185
 
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| Tratado de la esgrima con figuras por Francisco Román natural de Carmona
 
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| 1532
 
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| Francisco Román
 
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| Published: Bartolome Perez, Sevilla, 1532
 
  
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"This 16th century maestro from Seville is credited with much of the development of the montante rules. His treatise also important for being one of the few pre-Carranza texts on Iberian swordplay. Any surviving copies of this work have not yet been located. The year of publication is cited in other works as 1532.
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http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8451466w
  
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"The length of this work is unknown, as the highest folio number cited is 13. It covers at least the montante, sword alone, sword and shield, sword and cloak, and throws. Sword alone is called the queen of weapons, but montante is called the principal weapon and the eagle of weapons. However, it is also said that the sword and shield is the best of all, and that the sword is the foundation of all shields."
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En: http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.rbc/rosenwald.0570
  
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Compilation of references by Tim Rivera: http://spanishsword.org/files/references.roman.pdf
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De: http://resolver.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/SBB000017D900000000
  
 
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| ''De Arte Gladiatoria Dimicandi''
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| ca. 1480s
 
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| 1556
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| [[Philippo di Vadi]]
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| Vatican Library
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| Johannes Bierchenauwer
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| Possible second copy of [[De Arte Gladiatoria Dimicandi (MS Vitt.Em.1324)]]
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| See: VALLE ORTÍZ, M.J. and CURTIS, M.D. “Un texto de esgrima española del siglo XVI.” Materiales para la Historia del Deporte. 7. (2009): p.35-42
 
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| Cesare Pagani
 
| Cesare Pagani
 
| Biblioteca Nazionale di Firenze
 
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(XIX, 194, Magliabecchiana)
 
  
 
This is mentioned by Gelli. It is dated 1592, and Cesare declares himself a relative (possibly a nephew) of Marcantoio Pagano, who published his treatise in 1553.  
 
This is mentioned by Gelli. It is dated 1592, and Cesare declares himself a relative (possibly a nephew) of Marcantoio Pagano, who published his treatise in 1553.  
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| ''Libro de las grandezas de la espada''(?)
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| 1616
 
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| Late 1500s or early 1600s
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| Ms Aa298
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| Add. Ms. 23223
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| Palais Liechtenstein Archiv
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| http://fechtgeschichte.blogspot.com/2017/04/transkription-der-handschrift-aa-298.html
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| British Library
 
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| This is listed by Castle, and is catalogued as 17th Century but the content itself seems more consistent with 16th century treatises. A black and white, easily readable, scan is inexpensive from the BL. It is handwritten in Italian, no illustrations, in two separate hands which are both fairly easy to read, although some of the pages are damaged and it is reasonable brief (the scan is 96 pages including blanks). Interestingly it uses the same guard nomenclature as Altoni with high, medium and low guards, and primarily discusses the single sword, sword and dagger, sword and cape and sword and rotella. The way it is organised is unusual, in that rather than relegating the rotella to a section of its own like most comparable treatises, it has a section on say the high guard, then explains how this applies to the single sword, sword and dagger, sword and cape and sword and rotella. It also very briefly mentions polearms, the spadone and two swords, which makes a nice round 10 Italian sources (alone) that includes two swords (Manciolino, Marozzo, Altoni, Agrippa, Di Grassi, Lovino, Lucino, Palladini, Docciolini, and this one). It is anonymous and it contains no overt contextual references (on an initial scan) to tie it down temporally or geographically. My gut feeling however is that it is Tuscan and late 16th century. In addition to guard nomenclature, it appears to have further commonalities with Altoni (for example it mentions the “zagaglia” as a pole weapon, which does not appear in any other known treatises except Altoni). The language appears quite “modern” and there are no glaring dialectal traits on an initial reading, but not inconsistent with a Tuscan/Central Italian origin…
 
  
 
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| ''Discorso del Gioco di Spada dell'Orafo di Cremona''
 
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(Discourse on the Play of the Sword by the Goldsmith of Cremona)
 
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| Early 1600s
 
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| Urb.lat.1231
 
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Cod. vatic. Urbin. 1231
 
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| Orafo di Cremona
 
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Vatican Library (Fondo Urbinate), Rome
 
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| This was relatively inexpensive as a copy from microfilm, however the scan is very bad and the words quite hard to read. This manuscript previously belonged to Gelli, and is described here:
 
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On a quick scan through there is little or no non technical content to put the treatises into context, and the scan is so faint in places I haven't managed to force myself to read it. It seems to have only two guards, the “diritta” and “roverscia”.
 
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| ''Fechtbuch des einfachen Rapiers / Fechtbuch in Rapier und Dolchen''
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| ''Nueva ciencia y filosofía de la destreza de las armas''
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| 1611
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| 1625
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| Mss. germ. qu. 1190/1191
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| Mss/9038
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| [[Hans Wilhelm Schöffer von Dietz]]
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| [[Luis Pacheco de Narváez]]
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| Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin
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| Biblioteca Nacional de Espana
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| (Single rapier, dated 1611. Many ink drawings. Belonged to Erasmus von Starhemberg, who owned another well-known Fechtbuch.)
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| Manuscript of Nueva Ciencia, which wasn't published until 1672.
  
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Ms. germ. qu. 1190, Berlin, Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin - Preußischer Kulturbesitz<br/>Mayster Hans Wilhelm: Fechtbuch des einfachen Rapiers (single rapier)<br/>318 folios · 1611
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http://bdh.bne.es/bnesearch/detalle/bdh0000088867
  
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Ms. germ. qu. 1191, Berlin, Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin - Preußischer Kulturbesitz<br/>Mayster Hans Wilhelm: Fechtbuch in Rapier und Dolchen<br/>327 Blatt · 1611
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| ''Compendio y Philosophia y Dztreza de las Armas''
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* Archetype for ''[[Grůndtliche vñ eigentlichte Beschreibung der Fechtkunst (Hans Wilhelm Schöffer von Dietz)|Grůndtliche vñ eigentlichte Beschreibung der Fechtkunst]]''?
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| Traced by Archibald Corble in the early 20th century to create the [[Compendio y Philosophia y Dztreza de las Armas (MS R4-B274)|MS R4-B274]].
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* Archetype for earlier publication of same in two volumes, making the 1620 a compilation reprint?
 
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* Possibly the same as or related to [[Grůndtliche vñ eigentlichte Beschreibung der Fechtkunst (4º MS Math.2)|4º MS Math.2]]
 
  
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https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/il-ponte/catalogue-id-il-pon1-10007/lot-d6d76e96-c0e1-4ee7-bc1d-a75c00c0b32a
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| ''Anfangs Gründe der Edeln Fechtkunst''
 
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| 1744-1763
 
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| MS B 215
 
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| Salomon Christoph Müller
 
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| Universiätsbibliothek Erlangen
 
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| Paper<br/>99 fol.
 
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German manuscript on the smallsword: Hs. B 215 at the University Library in Erlangen, Germany. It dates from around 1750, and was written by Salomon Christoph Mueller, the court fencing master for the Brandenburg court at Ansbach. The manuscript was originally in the palace library at Ansbach. The work is entitled Anfangs Gruende der Fechtkunst (Foundations of Fencing), and consists of two volumes: Vol. I has 56 pages and 81 plates. Vol II has 60 pages and 114 plates (many of which deal with left-handed fencing). The illustrations are ink drawings with watercolor. This sounds like an interesting work by someone who must have been a fairly prominent master. ~Matt G.
 
  
 
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| Manuscript by author, 'Traite Des Armes', by Theophile-Malo Corret De La Tour D'Auvergne.<br/>Published 1797.<br/>Subject classification: Fencing - French, 18th century NB letter inside giving history of this MS, Rouen, 1900 Also typed paragraph about the book
 
| Manuscript by author, 'Traite Des Armes', by Theophile-Malo Corret De La Tour D'Auvergne.<br/>Published 1797.<br/>Subject classification: Fencing - French, 18th century NB letter inside giving history of this MS, Rouen, 1900 Also typed paragraph about the book
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| Ms. Dresd. 469
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| Dominique Quenin, Maitre d'Armes de S.M.I.
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| 84 figures of fencers. Watercolor illustrations. 18th century, quarto, 48 folios. (Probably smallsword, but impossible to tell.)
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| Ms. Dresd. 491
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| Jeux d'Epee en figures. ("Game of the Sword, Illustrated.") Painted illustrations. 18th century, 25 folios.
  
 
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| ''Die Art und Weise, anzugreifen und zu verteidigen'' (?)
 
| ''Die Art und Weise, anzugreifen und zu verteidigen'' (?)
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| Francesco Giacomo Guglielmo and Filippo Del Serpente
 
| Francesco Giacomo Guglielmo and Filippo Del Serpente
 
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| ''Fior di Battaglia''
 
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| Early 15th century
 
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| Ms. 84
 
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| [[Fiore de'i Liberi]]
 
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| Biblioteca Estense
 
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| Last seen 1508
 
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| Early 15th century
 
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| Ms. 110
 
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| Biblioteca Estense
 
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| Opera de Scherma
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| 1532
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| [[Guido Antonio di Luca]]
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| “M. Pauls Liechtenawer von Venedig Fechtbuech. Anno 1548 beschriben Worden”
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| 1548
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| Stat III, Nr. 25 (24)
 
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| J. Acutt: Die Gründung der Münchener Hofbibliothek durch Albrecht V. and Johann Jakob Fugger (Vol. 28, Issue. 3, 1918, p.418); Prommers Katalog (p. 132). Location unknown
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| Purchased at auction by [[Paulus Hector Mair]], used to create the [[Rast Fechtbuch (Reichsstadt "Schätze" Nr. 82)|Reichstadt Nr. 82]] in 1553.
 
| Purchased at auction by [[Paulus Hector Mair]], used to create the [[Rast Fechtbuch (Reichsstadt "Schätze" Nr. 82)|Reichstadt Nr. 82]] in 1553.
  
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| Johannes Bierchenauwer (?)
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| 19th century facsimile possibly exists
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File:Bierchenauwer 2.jpg
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| ''Kunst des Fechtens''
 
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| [[Joachim Meyer]]
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| 1557
 
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| Lost as of the mid 20th century.  
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| [[Johannes Liechtenauer]] et al.
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| Stadtarchiv Biel
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| In 1968, there was an exhibition at the Schweizerische Turn- und Sportmuseum in Basel on fencing in art. It included a manuscript from 1557 described as containing the teachings of Liechtenauer, which was contributed by the Stadtarchiv Biel. This manuscript is not listed in any of the fencing manual catalogs, and the description given in the article matches no manuscript that we're aware of.
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http://www.zeit.de/1968/50/das-fechten-in-der-kunst
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When Jens Kleinau pointed this article out, Jurg Gassman and I (but more him) began making inquiries; after several weeks and speaking to every institution that might possibly have information about this (and tracking down one of about ten remaining copies of the exhibition publication), we've found nothing but dead ends.
  
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http://talhoffer.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/1561-joachim-meyer-dedicated-a-fencing-book-to-the-pfalzgrafen-of-pfalz-veldenz-2/
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https://books.google.com/books?id=dolGNQEACAAJ
  
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| ''Cabinet d'escrime de l'espee et poingnardt''
 
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| Source for [[Cabinet d'escrime de l'espee et poingnardt (MS KB.73.J.39)|MS KB.73.J.39]]
 
| Source for [[Cabinet d'escrime de l'espee et poingnardt (MS KB.73.J.39)|MS KB.73.J.39]]
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| ''Compendio y Philosophia y Dztreza de las Armas''
 
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| 1625
 
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| [[Octavio Ferrara]]
 
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| Traced by Archibald Corble in the early 20th century to create the [[Compendio y Philosophia y Dztreza de las Armas (MS R4-B274)|MS R4-B274]].
 
  
 
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Items in red have not yet been verified with the holding library.

Purgatory

Manuscript Purgatory is for works that we have not yet indexed for one reason or another.

M Title Year Signature Author Location Notes
No The Book of Feats of Arms and Chivalry before 1430 Lots Christine de Pisan BnF, etc. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=epXQh7B1w20C

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_de_Pizan

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8448959c

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b6000099t

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b84489727

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8448955q

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9058872d

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8449705f

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8451466w

En: http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.rbc/rosenwald.0570

De: http://resolver.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/SBB000017D900000000

No De Arte Gladiatoria Dimicandi ca. 1480s Philippo di Vadi Vatican Library Possible second copy of De Arte Gladiatoria Dimicandi (MS Vitt.Em.1324)
Yes Il Disegno Del signor Cesare Pagano, Cavaliere Nopoletano, su'l vero Teatro di Marte, Per la Teorica della Schrimia, All' Altezza, di Don Ferdinando, de Medeci, Gran Duca di Toscana 1592 Cesare Pagani Biblioteca Nazionale di Firenze (XIX, 194, Magliabecchiana)

This is mentioned by Gelli. It is dated 1592, and Cesare declares himself a relative (possibly a nephew) of Marcantoio Pagano, who published his treatise in 1553.

This is a weird one. It is in a good state of conservation, written in a beautifully clear hand and in a mostly not too obtuse Italian. The who thing was quite pricey to scan so I ordered the first 1/3 (which came to over 150 pages) to have a look and never followed up the next 2/3 as it is 99% irrelevant to the practical study of fencing. Instead it is literally stuffed with classical references but also observations about the natural world and sundry other digressions; there are no techniques and only scattered pieces of very general fencing advice.

Yes Libro de las grandezas de la espada(?) 1616 Ms Aa298 Palais Liechtenstein Archiv http://fechtgeschichte.blogspot.com/2017/04/transkription-der-handschrift-aa-298.html
Yes Nueva ciencia y filosofía de la destreza de las armas 1625 Mss/9038 Luis Pacheco de Narváez Biblioteca Nacional de Espana Manuscript of Nueva Ciencia, which wasn't published until 1672.

http://bdh.bne.es/bnesearch/detalle/bdh0000088867

No Compendio y Philosophia y Dztreza de las Armas 1625 Octavio Ferrara Traced by Archibald Corble in the early 20th century to create the MS R4-B274.

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/il-ponte/catalogue-id-il-pon1-10007/lot-d6d76e96-c0e1-4ee7-bc1d-a75c00c0b32a

No Abregé de l'exercice des armes[. Necéssaire à la jeunesse de savoir, pour pouvoir se deffendre avec son espée] 1767 MS E.1939.65.459 G. Belfin RL Scott

Luxembourg (place of manufacture)

Paper, vellum
Manuscript entitled, 'Abrege De L'Exercice Des Armes', by G Belfin.
Published Luxembourg, 1767.
Subject classification: Fencing - French, 18th century. Bookplate with coat of arms
No Traite Des Armes 1797 MS E.1939.65.489 Theophile-Malo Corret de La Tour D'Auvergne RL Scott Manuscript by author, 'Traite Des Armes', by Theophile-Malo Corret De La Tour D'Auvergne.
Published 1797.
Subject classification: Fencing - French, 18th century NB letter inside giving history of this MS, Rouen, 1900 Also typed paragraph about the book
No 18th century Ms. Dresd. 469 Dominique Quenin, Maitre d'Armes de S.M.I. SLUB 84 figures of fencers. Watercolor illustrations. 18th century, quarto, 48 folios. (Probably smallsword, but impossible to tell.)
No 18th century Ms. Dresd. 491 SLUB Jeux d'Epee en figures. ("Game of the Sword, Illustrated.") Painted illustrations. 18th century, 25 folios.

Morgue

The Manuscript Morgue is for manuscripts that seem to have existed at one time, but for which we currently have no solid information or leads.

M Title Year Signature Author Location Notes
No Die Art und Weise, anzugreifen und zu verteidigen (?) ca. 1295 Francesco Giacomo Guglielmo and Filippo Del Serpente Language and state of existence unknown.
No 1434 Filippo di Bartolomeo Dardi Lost
No Opera de Scherma 1532 Guido Antonio di Luca Lost
No “M. Pauls Liechtenawer von Venedig Fechtbuech. Anno 1548 beschriben Worden” 1548 Stat III, Nr. 25 (24) J. Acutt: Die Gründung der Münchener Hofbibliothek durch Albrecht V. and Johann Jakob Fugger (Vol. 28, Issue. 3, 1918, p.418); Prommers Katalog (p. 132). Location unknown


No Rast Fechtbuch ca. 1549 Antonius Rast Purchased at auction by Paulus Hector Mair, used to create the Reichstadt Nr. 82 in 1553.
No 1556 Johannes Bierchenauwer (?) 19th century facsimile possibly exists
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No 1557 Johannes Liechtenauer et al. Stadtarchiv Biel In 1968, there was an exhibition at the Schweizerische Turn- und Sportmuseum in Basel on fencing in art. It included a manuscript from 1557 described as containing the teachings of Liechtenauer, which was contributed by the Stadtarchiv Biel. This manuscript is not listed in any of the fencing manual catalogs, and the description given in the article matches no manuscript that we're aware of.

http://www.zeit.de/1968/50/das-fechten-in-der-kunst

When Jens Kleinau pointed this article out, Jurg Gassman and I (but more him) began making inquiries; after several weeks and speaking to every institution that might possibly have information about this (and tracking down one of about ten remaining copies of the exhibition publication), we've found nothing but dead ends.

https://books.google.com/books?id=dolGNQEACAAJ

No Cabinet d'escrime de l'espee et poingnardt 1585 Captain Peloquin Source for MS KB.73.J.39
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