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| This is listed by Castle, and is catalogued as 17th Century but the content itself seems more consistent with 16th century treatises. A black and white, easily readable, scan is inexpensive from the BL. It is handwritten in Italian, no illustrations, in two separate hands which are both fairly easy to read, although some of the pages are damaged and it is reasonable brief (the scan is 96 pages including blanks). Interestingly it uses the same guard nomenclature as Altoni with high, medium and low guards, and primarily discusses the single sword, sword and dagger, sword and cape and sword and rotella. The way it is organised is unusual, in that rather than relegating the rotella to a section of its own like most comparable treatises, it has a section on say the high guard, then explains how this applies to the single sword, sword and dagger, sword and cape and sword and rotella. It also very briefly mentions polearms, the spadone and two swords, which makes a nice round 10 Italian sources (alone) that includes two swords (Manciolino, Marozzo, Altoni, Agrippa, Di Grassi, Lovino, Lucino, Palladini, Docciolini, and this one). It is anonymous and it contains no overt contextual references (on an initial scan) to tie it down temporally or geographically. My gut feeling however is that it is Tuscan and late 16th century. In addition to guard nomenclature, it appears to have further commonalities with Altoni (for example it mentions the “zagaglia” as a pole weapon, which does not appear in any other known treatises except Altoni). The language appears quite “modern” and there are no glaring dialectal traits on an initial reading, but not inconsistent with a Tuscan/Central Italian origin… | | This is listed by Castle, and is catalogued as 17th Century but the content itself seems more consistent with 16th century treatises. A black and white, easily readable, scan is inexpensive from the BL. It is handwritten in Italian, no illustrations, in two separate hands which are both fairly easy to read, although some of the pages are damaged and it is reasonable brief (the scan is 96 pages including blanks). Interestingly it uses the same guard nomenclature as Altoni with high, medium and low guards, and primarily discusses the single sword, sword and dagger, sword and cape and sword and rotella. The way it is organised is unusual, in that rather than relegating the rotella to a section of its own like most comparable treatises, it has a section on say the high guard, then explains how this applies to the single sword, sword and dagger, sword and cape and sword and rotella. It also very briefly mentions polearms, the spadone and two swords, which makes a nice round 10 Italian sources (alone) that includes two swords (Manciolino, Marozzo, Altoni, Agrippa, Di Grassi, Lovino, Lucino, Palladini, Docciolini, and this one). It is anonymous and it contains no overt contextual references (on an initial scan) to tie it down temporally or geographically. My gut feeling however is that it is Tuscan and late 16th century. In addition to guard nomenclature, it appears to have further commonalities with Altoni (for example it mentions the “zagaglia” as a pole weapon, which does not appear in any other known treatises except Altoni). The language appears quite “modern” and there are no glaring dialectal traits on an initial reading, but not inconsistent with a Tuscan/Central Italian origin… | ||
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+ | | ''ltaliänische Fechtkunst'' | ||
+ | | 17th century | ||
+ | | Ms. Dresd. C. 91 | ||
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+ | | [[Sächsische Landesbibliothek]] | ||
+ | | 4a) C 91 *: 'ltaliänische Fechtkunst', 17. Jahrhundert, 400 Regeln. | ||
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+ | Italiänische Fecht-Kunst. 400 Hegeln. 17. Jahrh. 60 Bll. HPgtbd. fol. | ||
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+ | Brühl Nr. 270. Falkenstein S. 229. | ||
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+ | http://digital.slub-dresden.de/id275355187/221 | ||
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+ | | {{no}} | ||
+ | | ''ltaliänische Fechtkunst'' | ||
+ | | 17th century | ||
+ | | Ms. Dresd. C. 94a | ||
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+ | | [[Sächsische Landesbibliothek]] | ||
+ | | 4c) C 94a *: 'Fechtkunst aus dem Italien', 17. Jahrhundert, sehr schlechter Zustand. | ||
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+ | Fechtkunst. Aus dem Italienischen. Mit skizzierten Federzeichnungen, in denen die kämpfenden nackt dargestellt sind. 17. Jahrh. Pgtbd. fol. 252 Bl. | ||
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+ | - Auf dem Vorsetzblatt: „kost 14 gülden“ „Melchior von Sehwalbach“ [✝ 1635]. | ||
+ | - Auf dem Einbanddeckel: „Ludov. Rudolph Senft à Pilsach“ [✝ 1719]. | ||
+ | - Ex Bibliotheca Senftiana. Bezeichnet „M. (a) 87“. 1835 abgegeben aus der K. Silchs. Kupferstich-Gallerie: Biblioth.-Archiv Vol. 312 Bl. 63. | ||
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+ | Falkenstein S. 229. | ||
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+ | http://digital.slub-dresden.de/id275355187/221 | ||
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| Vorschriften für das Hiebfechten mit dem Rapier.<br/>Von Liechtenauer unabhängig. | | Vorschriften für das Hiebfechten mit dem Rapier.<br/>Von Liechtenauer unabhängig. | ||
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+ | | ''Eigentliche Beschreibung des Stoßfechtens im einfachen Rappier, aus Salvatore u. a. Fechtmeistern zusammengetragen'' | ||
+ | | 1671 | ||
+ | | Ms. Dresd. C. 13 | ||
+ | | Joh. Georg Pascha | ||
+ | | [[Sächsische Landesbibliothek]] | ||
+ | | 4d) C 13 *: 'Eigentliche Beschreibung des Stoßfechtens im einfachen Rappier, aus Salvatore u. a. Fechtmeistern zusammengetragen', 1671. | ||
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+ | Eigentliche Beschreibung des Stofsfechtens in einfachen Rappir Kürtzlichen aus dem berühmten Sig: Salvatore, und ändern Vornehmen FechtMeistern zusammen getragen. Gewidmet Augusto, postul. Admin. des Stiffts Magdeburg, von Joh. Georg Pascha, Pagenhofmeister, Hall d. 26. junij 1671. Starker Band. goh. fol. | ||
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+ | Die Widmung ist von Pascha eigenhändig unterzeichnet. | ||
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+ | Brühl Nr. 279. Falkenatein S. 229. | ||
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Revision as of 00:57, 15 March 2014
Items in red have not yet been verified with the holding museum.
M | Title | Year | Call number | Author | Location | Notes | ||||
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No | Fior di Battaglia | Early 15th century | Ms. 84 | Fiore de'i Liberi | Biblioteca Estense | Last seen 1508 | ||||
No | Fior di Battaglia | Early 15th century | Ms. 110 | Fiore de'i Liberi | Biblioteca Estense | Last seen 1508 | ||||
No | De Arte Gladiatoria Dimicandi | ca. 1480s | Philippo di Vadi | Vatican Library | Possible second copy of De Arte Gladiatoria Dimicandi (Cod.1324) | |||||
No | 1515 | J. Schwerer | Formerly Ortenburg'sche Bibliothek zu Tambach | o.S.
verschollen – bei WELLE aufgeführt, W 08 | ||||||
No | Rast Fechtbuch | ca. 1549 | Antonius Rast | Purchased at auction by Paulus Hector Mair, used to create the Reichstadt Nr. 82 in 1553. | ||||||
No | 1556 | Johannes Bierchenauwer | 19th century facsimile possibly exists | |||||||
No | Kunst des Fechtens | 1561 | Joachim Meyer | Lost as of the mid 20th century. | ||||||
No | Cabinet d'escrime de l'espee et poingnardt | 1585 | Captain Peloquin | Source for MS KB.73.J.39 | ||||||
No | Il Disegno Del signor Cesare Pagano, Cavaliere Nopoletano, su'l vero Teatro di Marte, Per la Teorica della Schrimia, All' Altezza, di Don Ferdinando, de Medeci, Gran Duca di Toscana | 1592 | Cesare Pagani | Biblioteca Nazionale di Firenze |
(XIX, 194, Magliabecchiana) This is mentioned by Gelli. It is dated 1592, and Cesare declares himself a relative (possibly a nephew) of Marcantoio Pagano, who published his treatise in 1553. This is a weird one. It is in a good state of conservation, written in a beautifully clear hand and in a mostly not too obtuse Italian. The who thing was quite pricey to scan so I ordered the first 1/3 (which came to over 150 pages) to have a look and never followed up the next 2/3 as it is 99% irrelevant to the practical study of fencing. Instead it is literally stuffed with classical references but also observations about the natural world and sundry other digressions; there are no techniques and only scattered pieces of very general fencing advice. | |||||
No | Late 1500s or early 1600s | Add. Ms. 23223 | British Library | This is listed by Castle, and is catalogued as 17th Century but the content itself seems more consistent with 16th century treatises. A black and white, easily readable, scan is inexpensive from the BL. It is handwritten in Italian, no illustrations, in two separate hands which are both fairly easy to read, although some of the pages are damaged and it is reasonable brief (the scan is 96 pages including blanks). Interestingly it uses the same guard nomenclature as Altoni with high, medium and low guards, and primarily discusses the single sword, sword and dagger, sword and cape and sword and rotella. The way it is organised is unusual, in that rather than relegating the rotella to a section of its own like most comparable treatises, it has a section on say the high guard, then explains how this applies to the single sword, sword and dagger, sword and cape and sword and rotella. It also very briefly mentions polearms, the spadone and two swords, which makes a nice round 10 Italian sources (alone) that includes two swords (Manciolino, Marozzo, Altoni, Agrippa, Di Grassi, Lovino, Lucino, Palladini, Docciolini, and this one). It is anonymous and it contains no overt contextual references (on an initial scan) to tie it down temporally or geographically. My gut feeling however is that it is Tuscan and late 16th century. In addition to guard nomenclature, it appears to have further commonalities with Altoni (for example it mentions the “zagaglia” as a pole weapon, which does not appear in any other known treatises except Altoni). The language appears quite “modern” and there are no glaring dialectal traits on an initial reading, but not inconsistent with a Tuscan/Central Italian origin… | ||||||
No | ltaliänische Fechtkunst | 17th century | Ms. Dresd. C. 91 | Sächsische Landesbibliothek | 4a) C 91 *: 'ltaliänische Fechtkunst', 17. Jahrhundert, 400 Regeln.
Italiänische Fecht-Kunst. 400 Hegeln. 17. Jahrh. 60 Bll. HPgtbd. fol. Brühl Nr. 270. Falkenstein S. 229. | |||||
No | ltaliänische Fechtkunst | 17th century | Ms. Dresd. C. 94a | Sächsische Landesbibliothek | 4c) C 94a *: 'Fechtkunst aus dem Italien', 17. Jahrhundert, sehr schlechter Zustand.
Fechtkunst. Aus dem Italienischen. Mit skizzierten Federzeichnungen, in denen die kämpfenden nackt dargestellt sind. 17. Jahrh. Pgtbd. fol. 252 Bl. - Auf dem Vorsetzblatt: „kost 14 gülden“ „Melchior von Sehwalbach“ [✝ 1635]. - Auf dem Einbanddeckel: „Ludov. Rudolph Senft à Pilsach“ [✝ 1719]. - Ex Bibliotheca Senftiana. Bezeichnet „M. (a) 87“. 1835 abgegeben aus der K. Silchs. Kupferstich-Gallerie: Biblioth.-Archiv Vol. 312 Bl. 63. Falkenstein S. 229. | |||||
No | Discorso del Gioco di Spada dell'Orafo di Cremona
(Discourse on the Play of the Sword by the Goldsmith of Cremona) |
Early 1600s | Urb.lat.1231
Cod. vatic. Urbin. 1231 |
Orafo di Cremona | Vatican Library
Vatican Library (Fondo Urbinate), Rome |
This was relatively inexpensive as a copy from microfilm, however the scan is very bad and the words quite hard to read. This manuscript previously belonged to Gelli, and is described here:
http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?92497-New-Manuscript-Orafo-di-Cremona On a quick scan through there is little or no non technical content to put the treatises into context, and the scan is so faint in places I haven't managed to force myself to read it. It seems to have only two guards, the “diritta” and “roverscia”. | ||||
Yes | Fechtbuch des einfachen Rapiers / Fechtbuch in Rapier und Dolchen | 1611 | Mss. germ. qu. 1190/1191 | Hans Wilhelm Schöffer von Dietz | Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin | (Single rapier, dated 1611. Many ink drawings. Belonged to Erasmus von Starhemberg, who owned another well-known Fechtbuch.)
Ms. germ. qu. 1190, Berlin, Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin - Preußischer Kulturbesitz (Another book by the same master, this one on rapier & dagger) Ms. germ. qu. 1191, Berlin, Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin - Preußischer Kulturbesitz
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No | Compendio y Philosophia y Dztreza de las Armas | 1625 | Octavio Ferrara | Traced by Archibald Corble in the early 20th century to create the MS R4-B274. | ||||||
No | 1662 | Ms. Chart. B 2117 | Christian Günther con Berlepsch ? | Universitäts- und Forschungsbibliothek Erfurt/Gotha ? | 7- Ms. Chart. B 2117 *
Papierhandschrift; 1662 ; lateinisch-deutsch-französisch ; 305 Bll. Sammelhandschrift in der Art des mittelalterlichen „Hausbuches“ mit Texten verschiedener Art (lateinische Sentenzen, französisch-deutsches Vokabular, französische Briefentwürfe, deutsche Fechtanweisungen, etc.) von Christian Günther con Berlepsch: 'Phrases ex variis autoribus quam studiosissimi collectae'.
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No | Eigentliche Beschreibung des Stoßfechtens im einfachen Rappier, aus Salvatore u. a. Fechtmeistern zusammengetragen | 1671 | Ms. Dresd. C. 13 | Joh. Georg Pascha | Sächsische Landesbibliothek | 4d) C 13 *: 'Eigentliche Beschreibung des Stoßfechtens im einfachen Rappier, aus Salvatore u. a. Fechtmeistern zusammengetragen', 1671.
Eigentliche Beschreibung des Stofsfechtens in einfachen Rappir Kürtzlichen aus dem berühmten Sig: Salvatore, und ändern Vornehmen FechtMeistern zusammen getragen. Gewidmet Augusto, postul. Admin. des Stiffts Magdeburg, von Joh. Georg Pascha, Pagenhofmeister, Hall d. 26. junij 1671. Starker Band. goh. fol. Die Widmung ist von Pascha eigenhändig unterzeichnet. Brühl Nr. 279. Falkenatein S. 229. | ||||
Yes | Anfangs Gründe der Edeln Fechtkunst | 1744-1763 | MS B 215 | Salomon Christoph Müller | Universiätsbibliothek Erlangen | Paper 99 fol. German manuscript on the smallsword: Hs. B 215 at the University Library in Erlangen, Germany. It dates from around 1750, and was written by Salomon Christoph Mueller, the court fencing master for the Brandenburg court at Ansbach. The manuscript was originally in the palace library at Ansbach. The work is entitled Anfangs Gruende der Fechtkunst (Foundations of Fencing), and consists of two volumes: Vol. I has 56 pages and 81 plates. Vol II has 60 pages and 114 plates (many of which deal with left-handed fencing). The illustrations are ink drawings with watercolor. This sounds like an interesting work by someone who must have been a fairly prominent master. ~Matt G. | ||||
No | Abregé de l'exercice des armes[. Necéssaire à la jeunesse de savoir, pour pouvoir se deffendre avec son espée] | 1767 | MS E.1939.65.459 | G. Belfin | RL Scott
Luxembourg (place of manufacture) |
Paper, vellum Manuscript entitled, 'Abrege De L'Exercice Des Armes', by G Belfin. Published Luxembourg, 1767. Subject classification: Fencing - French, 18th century. Bookplate with coat of arms | ||||
No | Traite Des Armes | 1797 | MS E.1939.65.489 | Theophile-Malo Corret de La Tour D'Auvergne | RL Scott | Manuscript by author, 'Traite Des Armes', by Theophile-Malo Corret De La Tour D'Auvergne. Published 1797. Subject classification: Fencing - French, 18th century NB letter inside giving history of this MS, Rouen, 1900 Also typed paragraph about the book |