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| author(s)             = [[author::John Neele]]
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| author(s)               = [[author::John Neele]]
| ascribed to           = Robert Parker
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| ascribed to             = Robert Parker
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| patron               = Viscount Beaumont
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| [[Knyghthode and Bataile (MS.243)|MS 243]] (1458-1460)
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| [[Knyghthode and Bataile (Cotton MS Titus A XXIII)|Cotton MS Titus A xxiii]] (ca. 1500)
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| [[Knyghthode and Bataile (Ashmole MS 45 II)|Ashmole MS 45 II]] (ca. 1500)
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| wiktenauer compilation by=[[Michael Chidester]]
 
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The so-called '''"Poem of the Pel"''' is a section of the 15th century [[nationality::English]] [[war book]] ''Knyghthode and Bataile'' ("Knighthood and Battle"), written between 1458 and 1460 by [[John Neele]];<ref>Daniel Wakelin. [http://www.questia.com/library/1G1-129970406/the-occasion-author-and-readers-of-knyghthode-and "The Occasion, Author, and Readers of Knyghthode and Bataile".] ''Medium Aevum'', vol. 73 iss. 2. Fall 2004.</ref> this treatise is itself an elaborate verse paraphrase of [[Flavius Vegetius Renatus]]' treatise on warfare ''De re militari'' (ca. 390). The poem has often been misattributed to Robert Parker due to its many similarities to Parker's contemporary work ''On Husbondrie''. There are three known copies of the text, an archetype (the [[Knyghthode and Bataile (MS.243)|MS 243]]) and two 16th century copies (the [[Knyghthode and Bataile (Cottonian MS Titus A.xxiii)|Cottonian MS Titus A.xxiii]] and the [[Knyghthode and Bataile (Ashmole MS 45 II)|Ashmole MS 45, part II]]).
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The so-called '''"Poem of the Pel"''' is a segment of the [[century::15th century]] [[nationality::English]] [[war book]] ''Knyghthode and Bataile'' ("Knighthood and Battle"), written between 1458 and 1460 by [[John Neele]];<ref>Daniel Wakelin. [http://www.questia.com/library/1G1-129970406/the-occasion-author-and-readers-of-knyghthode-and "The Occasion, Author, and Readers of Knyghthode and Bataile".] ''Medium Aevum'', vol. 73 iss. 2. Fall 2004.</ref> this treatise is itself an elaborate verse paraphrase of [[Flavius Vegetius Renatus]]' treatise on warfare ''De re militari'' (ca. 390). The poem has often been misattributed to Robert Parker due to its many similarities to Parker's contemporary work ''On Husbondrie''. There are three known copies of the text, an archetype (the [[Knyghthode and Bataile (MS.243)|MS 243]]) and two 16th century copies (the [[Knyghthode and Bataile (Cottonian MS Titus A.xxiii)|Cottonian MS Titus A.xxiii]] and the [[Knyghthode and Bataile (Ashmole MS 45 II)|Ashmole MS 45, part II]]).
  
The "Poem of the Pel" forms part of a longer passage in the text about individual martial training, one of the few texts from this period that treats this topic. The complete section is listed below; note that only the six stanzas beginning with the second on fol. 5v discuss the actual training of swordsmanship, and these are what most practitioners recognize as the 'poem'.
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The "Poem of the Pel" forms part of a longer passage in the text about individual martial training, one of the few texts from this period that treats this topic. The complete section is listed below; note that only the six stanzas beginning with the second on fol. 5v discuss the actual training of fencing, and these are what most practitioners recognize as the 'poem'.
  
 
== Treatise ==
 
== Treatise ==
  
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! <p>[[Poem of the Pel (MS.243)|Cambridge Version]] (1458-1460)<br/>Transcription open for editing</p>
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! <p>[[Poem of the Pel (Cottonian MS Titus A.xxiii)|London Version]] (ca. 1500)</p>
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! <p>[[Poem of the Pel (Ashmole MS 45 II)|Oxford Version]] (ca. 1500)</p>
! [[Poem of the Pel (Cottonian MS Titus A.xxiii)|London Version]] (ca. 1500)
 
 
 
! [[Poem of the Pel (Ashmole MS 45 II)|Oxford Version]] (ca. 1500)
 
 
 
  
 
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| <poem>To warde & wacche an oste it is to lerne
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Both holsom is that f[v]lly and necessary,
 
Both holsom is that f[v]lly and necessary,
 
Withinne a pale an oste is to gouerne,
 
Withinne a pale an oste is to gouerne,
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For faute of wacch, ha worthi not myscheved
 
For faute of wacch, ha worthi not myscheved
 
Now late, and al to rathe ? Is this nat preved ?</poem>
 
Now late, and al to rathe ? Is this nat preved ?</poem>
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== Additional Resources ==
 
== Additional Resources ==
  
* [[Joseph Strutt|Strutt, Joseph]]. {{Google books|Dr6JfrvuSU8C|The Sports and Pastimes of the People of England|page=185}}. Ed. William Hone. London: Chatto and Windus, Piccadilly, 1876. ISBN 978-1145708389
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* [[Flavius Vegetius Renatus|Vegetius Renatus, Plublius Flavius]]. {{Google books|8b5ZAAAAMAAJ|Knyghthode and Bataile: A XVth Century Verse Paraphrase of Flavius Vegetius Renatus' Treatise. "De Re Militari"|page=14}}. Ed. Dyboski, Roman; Arend, Zygfryd Marjan. London: Early English Text Society, 1936; reprinted London: Oxford University Press, 1971. ISBN 978-0859916943
 
  
 
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Latest revision as of 17:07, 31 October 2024

Poem of the Pel
Knyghthode and Bataile
Royal Library No.20 B.XI Pel.jpg
"The Attack of the Pel, A.D. 1300" (1842)
Author(s) John Neele
Ascribed to Robert Parker
Patron Viscount Beaumont
Date 1458-1460
Genre Fencing manual
Language Middle English
Manuscript(s)
Concordance by Michael Chidester
Website Digital Index of Middle
English Verse

The so-called "Poem of the Pel" is a segment of the 15th century English war book Knyghthode and Bataile ("Knighthood and Battle"), written between 1458 and 1460 by John Neele;[1] this treatise is itself an elaborate verse paraphrase of Flavius Vegetius Renatus' treatise on warfare De re militari (ca. 390). The poem has often been misattributed to Robert Parker due to its many similarities to Parker's contemporary work On Husbondrie. There are three known copies of the text, an archetype (the MS 243) and two 16th century copies (the Cottonian MS Titus A.xxiii and the Ashmole MS 45, part II).

The "Poem of the Pel" forms part of a longer passage in the text about individual martial training, one of the few texts from this period that treats this topic. The complete section is listed below; note that only the six stanzas beginning with the second on fol. 5v discuss the actual training of fencing, and these are what most practitioners recognize as the 'poem'.

Treatise

Additional Resources

The following is a list of publications containing scans, transcriptions, and translations relevant to this article, as well as published peer-reviewed research.

References

  1. Daniel Wakelin. "The Occasion, Author, and Readers of Knyghthode and Bataile". Medium Aevum, vol. 73 iss. 2. Fall 2004.