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− | | Beck catalog = [ | + | | Beck catalog = [http://kdih.badw.de/datenbank/handschrift/38/1/2 38.1.2] {{#set:BC=38.1.2}} |
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| Scribe(s) = | | Scribe(s) = | ||
| Author(s) = {{collapsible list | | Author(s) = {{collapsible list | ||
+ | | [[author::Sigmund Ain ringeck]] | ||
| [[author::Andres Juden]] | | [[author::Andres Juden]] | ||
| [[author::Hans Döbringer]] | | [[author::Hans Döbringer]] | ||
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| [[author::Ott Jud]] | | [[author::Ott Jud]] | ||
| [[author::Nicklass Preußen]] | | [[author::Nicklass Preußen]] | ||
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| [[author::Martin Syber]] | | [[author::Martin Syber]] | ||
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− | | Website = [http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/ | + | | Website = [http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/mwebcgi/mweb?request{{=}}record;id{{=}}241651;type{{=}}101 Museum catalog entry] |
| Images = [[:category:MS E.1939.65.341|Digital scans]] (1000x1400) | | Images = [[:category:MS E.1939.65.341|Digital scans]] (1000x1400) | ||
− | | Translations = {{German translation|http://talhoffer.wordpress.com/2011/ | + | | Translations = {{German translation|http://talhoffer.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/161/|1}} |
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− | The '''MS E.1939.65.341''' is a [[nationality::German]] [[fencing manual]] created in 1508.<ref>Internally dated on [[page:MS E.1939.65.341 022r.jpg|folio 22r]].</ref> The original currently rests in the R. L. Scott Collection of the [[ | + | The '''MS E.1939.65.341''' (often called the Glasgow Fechtbuch) is a [[nationality::German]] [[fencing manual]] created in 1508.<ref>Internally dated on [[page:MS E.1939.65.341 022r.jpg|folio 22r]].</ref> The original currently rests in the R. L. Scott Collection of the [[Kelvingrove Museum]] in Glasgow, United Kingdom. It is a compilation text consisting of treatises on a variety of martial topics, by several different masters who stood in the tradition of [[Johannes Liechtenauer]]. |
− | The Glasgow Fechtbuch is significant for several reasons. First, it contains the only known version of [[Sigmund | + | The Glasgow Fechtbuch is significant for several reasons. First, it contains the only known version of [[Sigmund Ain ringeck]]'s gloss of [[Johannes Liechtenauer]]'s ''Recital'' that includes illustrations as the text specifies (apparently copied from the originals). It also contains a fragment of the wrestling treatise associated with the [[Augsburg group]] which complements that found in the [[Bauman Fechtbuch (Cod.I.6.4º.2)|Bauman Fechtbuch]]. Additionally, the manuscript includes a few treatises whose relation to Liechtenauer's tradition might otherwise be unclear, such as [[Martin Syber]]'s ''New Recital'' and the teachings of the "[[other Masters (14th Century)|other masters]]" of the [[Pol Hausbuch (MS 3227a)|MS 3227<sup>a</sup>]]. Their appearance here goes some way toward authenticating these treatises as connected to Johannes Liechtenauer. |
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− | | [[Gloss]] of Liechtenauer's [[Recital]] on [[long sword]] fencing by [[Sigmund | + | | [[Gloss]] of Liechtenauer's [[Recital]] on [[long sword]] fencing by [[Sigmund Ain ringeck]] (fragment) |
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− | + | | <p>[11] {{red|b=1|A piece from scabbards, and this is a emergency stand, when you cannot move back or forward.}}</p> | |
<p>So mark as someone stabs or hits at you, so take your Messer in the middle-hew and that your right foot stands forward. And as soon as he himself at you… so hew from your side from the Roof simply above off, and jump him out of the way at his right side in the triangle and hit him at his right arm.</p> | <p>So mark as someone stabs or hits at you, so take your Messer in the middle-hew and that your right foot stands forward. And as soon as he himself at you… so hew from your side from the Roof simply above off, and jump him out of the way at his right side in the triangle and hit him at his right arm.</p> | ||
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<p>Note, when you are warring with someone, stand just back from him and place your left foot forward and lay your left hand in front on the chest, and notice what he does with his dagger.</p> | <p>Note, when you are warring with someone, stand just back from him and place your left foot forward and lay your left hand in front on the chest, and notice what he does with his dagger.</p> | ||
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| <p>[2] If he takes the dagger in the hand such that the blade goes out underneath the hand, then he wants to thrust from above to you. If he draws his dagger-hand back across his chest and steps forward with his right foot, then he wants to throw a ''mittel-stich''. If he holds the dagger in the hand, such that the blade is above going out by his thumb, then he wants to stab up from below. As soon as you see that he threatens you, get close-by him thus his thrust will have no power, and always pay attention to how he holds the dagger.</p> | | <p>[2] If he takes the dagger in the hand such that the blade goes out underneath the hand, then he wants to thrust from above to you. If he draws his dagger-hand back across his chest and steps forward with his right foot, then he wants to throw a ''mittel-stich''. If he holds the dagger in the hand, such that the blade is above going out by his thumb, then he wants to stab up from below. As soon as you see that he threatens you, get close-by him thus his thrust will have no power, and always pay attention to how he holds the dagger.</p> | ||
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| <p>[3] {{red|b=1|Also know}} that if you want to do this, but he stands back from you, you should be well aware that he is waiting for you with skill. When you notice this, then thrust with careful judgement. If you see that he wants to thrust, then counter it with one of the examples you will learn next.</p> | | <p>[3] {{red|b=1|Also know}} that if you want to do this, but he stands back from you, you should be well aware that he is waiting for you with skill. When you notice this, then thrust with careful judgement. If you see that he wants to thrust, then counter it with one of the examples you will learn next.</p> | ||
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<p>{{red|b=1|M}}ark, if you see someone comes fast with their dagger for a thrust below and intends to go through to thrust, hold yourself close against him and place your left leg forward, and the left hand at your chest. When he stabs at you, go in with your left hand to his right hand and (wrench?) his hand around and away from you, and with your dagger, stab him in the chest or wherever you like as it is shown above.</p> | <p>{{red|b=1|M}}ark, if you see someone comes fast with their dagger for a thrust below and intends to go through to thrust, hold yourself close against him and place your left leg forward, and the left hand at your chest. When he stabs at you, go in with your left hand to his right hand and (wrench?) his hand around and away from you, and with your dagger, stab him in the chest or wherever you like as it is shown above.</p> | ||
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<p>If he thrusts at you with the thrust as written above, and he wants to parry you with the thrust in the parry or with the (arm hand) so seize with your left hand below through your both arms and grasp that with the point of the dagger, and break his arm in front of you below. End.</p> | <p>If he thrusts at you with the thrust as written above, and he wants to parry you with the thrust in the parry or with the (arm hand) so seize with your left hand below through your both arms and grasp that with the point of the dagger, and break his arm in front of you below. End.</p> | ||
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− | ! [[Martin Huntsfeld|100v - 104v]] | + | ! {{nowrap|[[Martin Huntsfeld|100v - 104v]]}} |
| Short sword fencing by [[Martin Huntsfeld]] | | Short sword fencing by [[Martin Huntsfeld]] | ||
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== Gallery == | == Gallery == | ||
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== Additional Resources == | == Additional Resources == | ||
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== References == | == References == | ||
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== Copyright and License Summary == | == Copyright and License Summary == | ||
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| work = Translation (Messer) | | work = Translation (Messer) | ||
− | | authors = [[Jens P. Kleinau]] | + | | authors = [[translator::Jens P. Kleinau]] |
| source link = http://talhoffer.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/161/ | | source link = http://talhoffer.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/161/ | ||
| source title= The Fencing and Life of Hans Talhoffer | | source title= The Fencing and Life of Hans Talhoffer | ||
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− | | authors = [[Harrison Ridgeway]] | + | | authors = [[translator::Harrison Ridgeway]] |
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| source title= Private Communication | | source title= Private Communication | ||
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| work = Transcription | | work = Transcription | ||
− | | authors = [[Dierk Hagedorn]] | + | | authors = [[transcriber::Dierk Hagedorn]] |
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| source title= [[Index:Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)]] | | source title= [[Index:Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)]] |
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MS E.1939.65.341, Kelvingrove Museum Glasgow, United Kingdom | |||||
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Date | 1508 | ||||
Language(s) | Early New High German | ||||
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Material | Paper | ||||
Size | 107 folia (206 mm x 155 mm) | ||||
Format | Double-sided; in some sections, one illustration per side with text above | ||||
External data | Museum catalog entry | ||||
Treatise scans | Digital scans (1000x1400) | ||||
Other translations | Deutsch-Übersetzung |
The MS E.1939.65.341 (often called the Glasgow Fechtbuch) is a German fencing manual created in 1508.[1] The original currently rests in the R. L. Scott Collection of the Kelvingrove Museum in Glasgow, United Kingdom. It is a compilation text consisting of treatises on a variety of martial topics, by several different masters who stood in the tradition of Johannes Liechtenauer.
The Glasgow Fechtbuch is significant for several reasons. First, it contains the only known version of Sigmund Ain ringeck's gloss of Johannes Liechtenauer's Recital that includes illustrations as the text specifies (apparently copied from the originals). It also contains a fragment of the wrestling treatise associated with the Augsburg group which complements that found in the Bauman Fechtbuch. Additionally, the manuscript includes a few treatises whose relation to Liechtenauer's tradition might otherwise be unclear, such as Martin Syber's New Recital and the teachings of the "other masters" of the MS 3227a. Their appearance here goes some way toward authenticating these treatises as connected to Johannes Liechtenauer.
Contents
Provenance
Contents
1r - 22r | Gloss of Liechtenauer's Recital on long sword fencing by Sigmund Ain ringeck (fragment) |
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22v - 24r | Anonymous treatise on long sword fencing |
24v - 25r | Recital on long sword fencing by Martin Syber |
25v - 26v | Anonymous Messer teachings
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27r - 29v | Long sword fencing by Andres Juden, Jobs von der Nyssen, Nicklass Prewsñ, and Hans Döbringer |
35r - 56r | Grappling teachings from the Augsburg group |
64r - 66r | Grappling by Andre Lignitzer |
67r - 73v | Grappling by Ott Jud |
74r - 82r | Gloss of Liechtenauer's Recital on mounted fencing by Sigmund Ain ringeck |
83r - 84r | Anonymous gloss of Liechtenauer's Recital on short sword fencing (fragment) |
84r - 95v | Gloss of Liechtenauer's Recital on short sword fencing by Pseudo-Peter von Danzig (fragment) |
95v - 97v | Dagger by Martin Huntsfeld |
97v - 100r | Anonymous dagger teachings
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100v - 104v | Short sword fencing by Martin Huntsfeld |
105r - 105v | Sword and Buckler by Andre Lignitzer |
Gallery
Additional Resources
The following is a list of publications containing scans, transcriptions, and translations relevant to this article, as well as published peer-reviewed research.
- Chidester, Michael; Dierk Hagedorn (2024). Pieces of Ringeck: The Definitive Edition of the Gloss of Sigmund Ainring. Medford: HEMA Bookshelf. ISBN 978-1-953683-41-0.
- Jaquet, Daniel; Bartłomiej Walczak (2014). "Liegnitzer, Hundsfeld or Lew? The question of authorship of popular Medieval fighting teachings." Acta Periodica Duellatorum 2(1): 105-148. doi:10.1515/apd-2015-0015.
- Lee, Lucien (2022). "Messerfechten from the Augsburg Tradition." Bauman's Fight Book: Augsburg University Library Ⅰ.6.4º 2: 129-156. Ed. by Michael Chidester. Medford: HEMA Bookshelf. ISBN 978-1-953683-27-4.
- Tobler, Christian Henry (2010). Messer Fighting from the Glasgow Fechtbuch. Wheaton: Freelance Academy Press.
- Tobler, Christian Henry (2022). Lance, Spear, Sword, & Messer: A German Medieval Martial Arts Miscellany. Wheaton: Freelance Academy Press. ISBN 978-1-937439-64-4.
References
Copyright and License Summary
For further information, including transcription and translation notes, see the discussion page.
Work | Author(s) | Source | License |
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Translation (Messer) | Jens P. Kleinau | The Fencing and Life of Hans Talhoffer | |
Translation (Dagger) | Harrison Ridgeway | Private Communication | |
Transcription | Dierk Hagedorn | Index:Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341) |