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'''Jobst von Württemberg''' was a 15th or [[century::16th century]] German [[fencing master]]. Nothing is currently known about the life of this master other than the fact that he authored a treatise which was reproduced by [[Gregor Erhart]] in 1533 (for the [[Gregor Erhart Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.354)|MS E.1939.65.354]]) and [[Lienhart Sollinger]] before 1556 (for the [[Lienhart Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cgm 3712)|Cgm 3712]]). His writings suggest that he was an initiate of the tradition of the grand master [[Johannes Liechtenauer]], but his name does not appear on the list of masters in that tradition recorded by [[Paulus Kal]] in ca. 1470.<ref>The Fellowship of Liechtenauer is recorded in three versions of [[Paulus Kal]]'s treatise: [[Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS 1825)|MS 1825]] (1460s), [[Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (Cgm 1507)|Cgm 1570]] (ca. 1470), and [[Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS KK5126)|MS KK5126]] (1480s).</ref> The treatise of "the Other Master Swordsmen" in [[Nuremberg Hausbuch (MS 3227a)|Nuremberg Hausbuch]] and the [[Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)|Glasgow Fechtbuch]] mentions a master named [[Jobs von der Nissen|Jobs/Josts von der Nissen]] in connection to Liechtenauer, but there's no evidence that they refer to the same man.
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'''Jobst von Württemberg''' was a 15th or [[century::16th century]] German [[fencing master]]. Nothing is currently known about the life of this master other than the fact that he authored a treatise which was reproduced by [[Gregor Erhart]] in 1533 (for the [[Gregor Erhart Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.354)|MS E.1939.65.354]]) and [[Lienhart Sollinger]] before 1556 (for the [[Lienhart Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cgm 3712)|Cgm 3712]]). His writings suggest that he was an initiate of the tradition of the grand master [[Johannes Liechtenauer]], but his name does not appear on the list of masters in that tradition recorded by [[Paulus Kal]] in ca. 1470.<ref>The Fellowship of Liechtenauer is recorded in three versions of [[Paulus Kal]]'s treatise: [[Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS 1825)|MS 1825]] (1460s), [[Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (Cgm 1507)|Cgm 1507]] (ca. 1470), and [[Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS KK5126)|MS KK5126]] (1480s).</ref> The treatise of "[[Other Masters (14th Century)|the Other Master Swordsmen]]" in [[Pol Hausbuch (MS 3227a)|Pol Hausbuch]] and the [[Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)|Glasgow Fechtbuch]] mentions a master named [[Jobs von der Nissen|Jobs/Josts von der Nissen]] in connection to Liechtenauer, but there's no evidence that they refer to the same man.
  
 
Württemberg authored what appears to be an extensive treatise on multiple weapons, but little research has been performed on his material as yet.
 
Württemberg authored what appears to be an extensive treatise on multiple weapons, but little research has been performed on his material as yet.
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! <p>[[Lienhart Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cgm 3712)|Munich Version]] (1556)<br/>by [[Jens P. Kleinau]]</p>
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== Additional Resources ==  
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== Additional Resources ==
 
 
  
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== References ==  
 
== References ==  

Latest revision as of 03:21, 12 July 2024

Jobst von Württemberg
Born 15th century
Died 16th century (?)
Movement Liechtenauer Tradition
Genres Fencing manual
Language Early New High German
Archetype(s) Currently lost
Manuscript(s)
Concordance by Michael Chidester
Translations Deutsch-Übersetzung

Jobst von Württemberg was a 15th or 16th century German fencing master. Nothing is currently known about the life of this master other than the fact that he authored a treatise which was reproduced by Gregor Erhart in 1533 (for the MS E.1939.65.354) and Lienhart Sollinger before 1556 (for the Cgm 3712). His writings suggest that he was an initiate of the tradition of the grand master Johannes Liechtenauer, but his name does not appear on the list of masters in that tradition recorded by Paulus Kal in ca. 1470.[1] The treatise of "the Other Master Swordsmen" in Pol Hausbuch and the Glasgow Fechtbuch mentions a master named Jobs/Josts von der Nissen in connection to Liechtenauer, but there's no evidence that they refer to the same man.

Württemberg authored what appears to be an extensive treatise on multiple weapons, but little research has been performed on his material as yet.

Treatise

Additional Resources

The following is a list of publications containing scans, transcriptions, and translations relevant to this article, as well as published peer-reviewed research.

  • Lee, Lucien (2022). "Messerfechten from the Augsburg Tradition." Bauman's Fight Book: Augsburg University Library Ⅰ.6.4º 2: 129-156. Ed. by Michael Chidester. Medford, MA: HEMA Bookshelf. ISBN 978-1-953683-27-4.

References

  1. The Fellowship of Liechtenauer is recorded in three versions of Paulus Kal's treatise: MS 1825 (1460s), Cgm 1507 (ca. 1470), and MS KK5126 (1480s).
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 versetzen: to parry, oppose, transpose
  3. 3.0 3.1 As in to serve in the military or to serve without obligation or to submit
  4. come upon, encounter
  5. to lighten, to weaken, to make small, to weaken, to make inferior.
  6. damaged, you can see the top of the d.
  7. horizontally
  8. left hand between the two first thirds of the blade
  9. in his action
  10. Nachreisen
  11. of the reach of his hew
  12. yours
  13. his
  14. strike and guarding movement in constant flow as in saber fencing
  15. the hand