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| [[OPLODIDASKALIA sive Armorvm Tractandorvm Meditatio Alberti Dvreri (MS 26-232)|MS 26-232]] (1512)
 
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| [[Opus Amplissimum de Arte Athletica (MSS Dresd.C.93/C.94)|MSS Dresd.C.93/94]] (1542)
 
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| [[Opus Amplissimum de Arte Athletica (Cod.10825/10826)|Cod.10825/10826]] (1550s)
 
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| [[Opus Amplissimum de Arte Athletica (Cod.icon. 393)|Cod.icon. 393]] (1550s)
 
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| [[Rast Fechtbuch (Reichsstadt "Schätze" Nr. 82)|Reichsstadt Nr.82]] (1553)
 
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| [[Lienhart Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cgm 3712)|Cgm 3712]] (1556)
 
 
  | [[Hutter/Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cod.I.6.2º.2)|Cod.I.6.2º.2]] (1564)
 
  | [[Hutter/Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cod.I.6.2º.2)|Cod.I.6.2º.2]] (1564)
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| [[Fechtbuch zu Ross und zu Fuss (MS Var.82)|MS Var.82]] (1570)
 
 
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| first printed edition = [[Christian Henry Tobler|Tobler]], 2010
 
| first printed edition = [[Christian Henry Tobler|Tobler]], 2010
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{{under construction | section=yes | comment=For the present, article content is mirrored on the [[Jud Lew]] page. }}
 
'''"Pseudo-Peter von Danzig"''' is the name given to an anonymous late 14th or early [[century::15th century]] [[nationality::German]] [[fencing master]].<ref>This name stems from the false assumption of many 20th century writers identifying him with [[Peter von Danzig zum Ingolstadt]].</ref> Some time before the creation of the [[Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)|Codex 44.A.8]] in 1452, he authored a [[gloss]] of [[Johannes Liechtenauer]]'s [[Recital]] (''Zettel'') which would go on to become the most widespread in the tradition. While his identity remains unknown, it is possible that he was in fact [[Jud Lew]] or [[Sigmund Schining ein Ringeck]], both of whose glosses show strong similarities to the work. On the other hand, the introduction to the Rome version of the text—the oldest currently extant—might be construed as attributing it to Liechtenauer himself.
 
'''"Pseudo-Peter von Danzig"''' is the name given to an anonymous late 14th or early [[century::15th century]] [[nationality::German]] [[fencing master]].<ref>This name stems from the false assumption of many 20th century writers identifying him with [[Peter von Danzig zum Ingolstadt]].</ref> Some time before the creation of the [[Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)|Codex 44.A.8]] in 1452, he authored a [[gloss]] of [[Johannes Liechtenauer]]'s [[Recital]] (''Zettel'') which would go on to become the most widespread in the tradition. While his identity remains unknown, it is possible that he was in fact [[Jud Lew]] or [[Sigmund Schining ein Ringeck]], both of whose glosses show strong similarities to the work. On the other hand, the introduction to the Rome version of the text—the oldest currently extant—might be construed as attributing it to Liechtenauer himself.
  
 
== Treatise ==
 
== Treatise ==
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{{under construction | section=yes | comment=For the present, article content is mirrored on the  [[Jud Lew]] page. }}
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Early on in its history, this text seems to have split into two primary branches. The first branch, found in the [[Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)|Rome]] (1452), [[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Krakow]] (1510-20), and [[Hutter/Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cod.I.6.2º.2)|Augsburg II]] (1564) versions, has slightly longer descriptions for many devices and is always accompanied by illustrations. The second branch, appearing first in the [[Codex Lew (Cod.I.6.4º.3)|Augsburg I]] (1450s) and used in all extant versions except the three listed above, has shorter descriptions but a number of additional devices.
 
Early on in its history, this text seems to have split into two primary branches. The first branch, found in the [[Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)|Rome]] (1452), [[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Krakow]] (1510-20), and [[Hutter/Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cod.I.6.2º.2)|Augsburg II]] (1564) versions, has slightly longer descriptions for many devices and is always accompanied by illustrations. The second branch, appearing first in the [[Codex Lew (Cod.I.6.4º.3)|Augsburg I]] (1450s) and used in all extant versions except the three listed above, has shorter descriptions but a number of additional devices.
  
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! <p>Images<br/>from the [[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Krakow version]]</p>
 
! <p>Images<br/>from the [[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Krakow version]]</p>
 
! <p>{{rating|A|Featured Translation (from the Rome)}}<br/>by [[Cory Winslow]]</p>
 
! <p>{{rating|A|Featured Translation (from the Rome)}}<br/>by [[Cory Winslow]]</p>
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! <p>[[Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)|Rome Version]] (1452)<br/>by [[Dierk Hagedorn]]</p>
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! <p>[[Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)|Rome Version]] (1452){{edit index|Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)}}<br/>by [[Dierk Hagedorn]]</p>
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! <p>[[Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS KK5126)|Vienna Version]] (1480s)<br/>by [[Carsten&nbsp;Lorbeer]], [[Julia&nbsp;Lorbeer]],<br/>[[Andreas&nbsp;Meier]], [[Marita&nbsp;Wiedner]]</p>
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! <p>[[Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS KK5126)|Vienna Version]] (1480s){{edit index|Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS KK5126)}}<br/>by [[Carsten&nbsp;Lorbeer]], [[Julia&nbsp;Lorbeer]],<br/>[[Andreas&nbsp;Meier]], [[Marita&nbsp;Wiedner]]</p>
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! <p>[[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Krakow Version]] (1510-20)<br/>by [[Grzegorz Żabiński]]</p>
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! <p>[[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Krakow Version]] (1510-20){{edit index|Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)}}<br/>by [[Grzegorz Żabiński]]</p>
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! <p>[[Hutter/Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cod.I.6.2º.2)|Augsburg Version]] (1564)<br/>by Dierk Hagedorn</p>
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! <p>[[Hutter/Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cod.I.6.2º.2)|Augsburg Version]] (1564){{edit index|Hutter/Sollinger Fechtbuch (Cod.I.6.2º.2)}}<br/>by Dierk Hagedorn</p>
 
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! <p>[[Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)|Rome Version]] (1452){{edit index|Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)}}<br/>by [[Dierk Hagedorn]]</p>
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! <p>[[Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS KK5126)|Vienna Version]] (1480s){{edit index|Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS KK5126)}}<br/>by [[Carsten&nbsp;Lorbeer]], [[Julia&nbsp;Lorbeer]],<br/>[[Andreas&nbsp;Meier]], [[Marita&nbsp;Wiedner]]</p>
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! <p>[[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Krakow Version]] (1510-20){{edit index|Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)}}<br/>by [[Grzegorz Żabiński]]</p>
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| [http://www.hammaborg.de/en/transkriptionen/peter_von_danzig/03_rossfechten.php Rome Version]
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| [http://www.pragmatische-schriftlichkeit.de/transkription/edition_paulus_kal.pdf Vienna Version (114r-117v)]
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! <p>Images<br/>from the [[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Krakow version]]</p>
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! <p>{{rating|C|Draft Translation (from the Rome)}}<br/>by [[Mike Rasmusson]]</p>
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! <p>[[Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)|Rome Version]] (1452){{edit index|Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8)}}<br/>by [[Dierk Hagedorn]]</p>
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! <p>[[Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS KK5126)|Vienna Version]] (1480s){{edit index|Paulus Kal Fechtbuch (MS KK5126)}}<br/>by [[Carsten&nbsp;Lorbeer]], [[Julia&nbsp;Lorbeer]],<br/>[[Andreas&nbsp;Meier]], [[Marita&nbsp;Wiedner]]</p>
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! <p>[[Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)|Krakow Version]] (1510-20){{edit index|Goliath (MS Germ.Quart.2020)}}<br/>by [[Grzegorz Żabiński]]</p>
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! <p>[[Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)|Glasgow Version]] (1508){{edit index|Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)}}<br/>by [[Dierk Hagedorn]]</p>
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<p>Those composed and devised by Johannes Liechtenawer, who was the one high master of the art and well respected and so that princes and gentlemen Knights and squires hear the art so that they then learn and shall know Thus the art has been allowed to be written with concealed and considered words This is so that not every man who hears it shall even understand it and if this is done through an irresponsible fightmaster's will then your art will be lessened because of it, similarly your art shall then not be open but vulgar, so direct the art that it not become widely heard as in hear the art and conceal the same and consider the words on combat fencing that stand after here and then are clarified In the comments and laid out so that any man can retain well and will understand if he knows other fencing.</p>
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Revision as of 20:48, 10 May 2016

Gloss and Interpretation of
the Recital on the Long Sword
die gloss und die auslegung der zettel
des langen schwert
Author(s) Unknown
Ascribed to Pseudo-Peter von Danzig
Illustrated by Unknown
Date before 1452
Genre
Language Early New High German
Archetype(s) Hypothetical
Principal
Manuscript(s)
Manuscript(s)
First Printed
English Edition 		Tobler, 2010
Concordance by Michael Chidester
Translations
MS Thott.290.2º 011r.jpg

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"Pseudo-Peter von Danzig" is the name given to an anonymous late 14th or early 15th century German fencing master.[1] Some time before the creation of the Codex 44.A.8 in 1452, he authored a gloss of Johannes Liechtenauer's Recital (Zettel) which would go on to become the most widespread in the tradition. While his identity remains unknown, it is possible that he was in fact Jud Lew or Sigmund Schining ein Ringeck, both of whose glosses show strong similarities to the work. On the other hand, the introduction to the Rome version of the text—the oldest currently extant—might be construed as attributing it to Liechtenauer himself.

Treatise

Early on in its history, this text seems to have split into two primary branches. The first branch, found in the Rome (1452), Krakow (1510-20), and Augsburg II (1564) versions, has slightly longer descriptions for many devices and is always accompanied by illustrations. The second branch, appearing first in the Augsburg I (1450s) and used in all extant versions except the three listed above, has shorter descriptions but a number of additional devices.

In order to achieve a greater degree of organization and readability, Liechtenauer's verse has been separated into its proper couplets in this presentation. The verse is laid out this way in the Augsburg I and Salzburg versions, but in most of the other manuscripts it is included inline.

Additional Resources

References

  1. ↑ This name stems from the false assumption of many 20th century writers identifying him with Peter von Danzig zum Ingolstadt.
Early Germanic Traditions
Common Fencing Johannes Liechtenauer reversed.jpg
Wrestling
Liechtenauer
Tradition
Beringer Verse
Augsburg Tradition
Other Works
Fabris Tradition
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