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<p>When you and your opponent have grabbed by the arms and you have your left leg forward, if he is clever and steps with his right leg behind your left from the outside to throw you over it, quickly pull your left leg back, grab his right leg and hit him in the chest above. So he will fall.</p>
 
<p>When you and your opponent have grabbed by the arms and you have your left leg forward, if he is clever and steps with his right leg behind your left from the outside to throw you over it, quickly pull your left leg back, grab his right leg and hit him in the chest above. So he will fall.</p>
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<p>When someone holds you across the shoulders from behind, lift up your arm on the side he has his leg forward and hit him in the elbow bending of his arm. With your other arm push his arm to the side. With it hold his arm, grab him by the throat with the other one and thrust your leg into the knee bending of his exposed leg, which is turned towards you with the heel.</p>
 
<p>When someone holds you across the shoulders from behind, lift up your arm on the side he has his leg forward and hit him in the elbow bending of his arm. With your other arm push his arm to the side. With it hold his arm, grab him by the throat with the other one and thrust your leg into the knee bending of his exposed leg, which is turned towards you with the heel.</p>
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<p>With your right arm push his left arm away and  grab him by the fingers of his right hand. Use your left arm, with which you have grabbed it before, to push it upwards and throw him on his back over your left thigh.</p>
 
<p>With your right arm push his left arm away and  grab him by the fingers of his right hand. Use your left arm, with which you have grabbed it before, to push it upwards and throw him on his back over your left thigh.</p>
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<p>Push his left arm away with your right arm and reach through between his legs. Grab him by the back of his jacket or by the arm, lift him up and with your left arm above push him away. So he will fall back onto his head.</p>
 
<p>Push his left arm away with your right arm and reach through between his legs. Grab him by the back of his jacket or by the arm, lift him up and with your left arm above push him away. So he will fall back onto his head.</p>
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<p>When someone reaches with his right arm between your legs and grabs the back of your jacket, lean towards him and reach with both of your arms bellow his right arm from the outside. Lift his right arm up and he will be unable to throw you.</p>
 
<p>When someone reaches with his right arm between your legs and grabs the back of your jacket, lean towards him and reach with both of your arms bellow his right arm from the outside. Lift his right arm up and he will be unable to throw you.</p>
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<p>If someone grabs you by your left arm with both of his hands and wants to pull you to his right side, reach with your right arm over his left arm and use it to grab him on his right side. With your left hand grab him by the bending of his knee.</p>
 
<p>If someone grabs you by your left arm with both of his hands and wants to pull you to his right side, reach with your right arm over his left arm and use it to grab him on his right side. With your left hand grab him by the bending of his knee.</p>
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<p>If someone grabs you by the chest with both arms, reach with your right arm over his left arm and press down on it. With your left hand push his right elbow and block his way with your left leg.</p>
 
<p>If someone grabs you by the chest with both arms, reach with your right arm over his left arm and press down on it. With your left hand push his right elbow and block his way with your left leg.</p>
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<p>When someone attempts to do the barrier with the right arm on you, do the barrier with the left arm on him.</p>
 
<p>When someone attempts to do the barrier with the right arm on you, do the barrier with the left arm on him.</p>
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<p>Strike his arms away with both of your hands and grab him by the knee-bendings with both of your hands. Pull him towards you and hit him in the chest with your head so that he falls.</p>
 
<p>Strike his arms away with both of your hands and grab him by the knee-bendings with both of your hands. Pull him towards you and hit him in the chest with your head so that he falls.</p>
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<p>Grab him around the neck from above and around the shoulders and lie down on him. Step far back with your legs so that he will be unable to gain a hold on them, and this is how you press him to the ground.</p>
 
<p>Grab him around the neck from above and around the shoulders and lie down on him. Step far back with your legs so that he will be unable to gain a hold on them, and this is how you press him to the ground.</p>
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<p>If he stands with his right leg forward, pull his right arm with your left hand, kick him in the ankle of his right leg with your left leg, and throw him to the ground.</p>
 
<p>If he stands with his right leg forward, pull his right arm with your left hand, kick him in the ankle of his right leg with your left leg, and throw him to the ground.</p>
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<p>Or you can&mdash;in addition to the kick&mdash;use your right hand to hit him in the throat and throw him onto his back.</p>
 
<p>Or you can&mdash;in addition to the kick&mdash;use your right hand to hit him in the throat and throw him onto his back.</p>
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<p>If he holds you loosely by the arms, reach with your left hand towards his right hand and grab him by the fingers. Hit him with the right hand and then grab him by the body under his right arm. Use your left hand to grab him by the bending of his knee.</p>
 
<p>If he holds you loosely by the arms, reach with your left hand towards his right hand and grab him by the fingers. Hit him with the right hand and then grab him by the body under his right arm. Use your left hand to grab him by the bending of his knee.</p>
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<p>If someone grabs you around your waist from behind, lower yourself and when he tries to pull you up turn around to throw him over the barrier.<ref>''Schranck''</ref></p>
 
<p>If someone grabs you around your waist from behind, lower yourself and when he tries to pull you up turn around to throw him over the barrier.<ref>''Schranck''</ref></p>
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<p>Grab him by the waist above his hip with your right hand, reach with your left hand from above across his right shoulder and grab him by the wrist of his right arm. Grip him firmly and lift him up. Use your right knee to lift his left knee and throw him in front of you.</p>
 
<p>Grab him by the waist above his hip with your right hand, reach with your left hand from above across his right shoulder and grab him by the wrist of his right arm. Grip him firmly and lift him up. Use your right knee to lift his left knee and throw him in front of you.</p>
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<p>When he has his arms under yours, you can also strike him in the throat and push him back.</p>
 
<p>When he has his arms under yours, you can also strike him in the throat and push him back.</p>
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<p>Throw him over your leg on both sides.</p>
 
<p>Throw him over your leg on both sides.</p>
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<p>When someone presses you onto himself, place your elbow onto his throat or onto his chest, and push him away from you so that your left leg will be placed behind.</p>
 
<p>When someone presses you onto himself, place your elbow onto his throat or onto his chest, and push him away from you so that your left leg will be placed behind.</p>
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<p>When someone wants to go with his head under your arm and seeks to throw you over his back use the arm to grasp his neck firmly and press him to yourself. Lean with your chest onto him from above and use all of your weight to push him down.</p>
 
<p>When someone wants to go with his head under your arm and seeks to throw you over his back use the arm to grasp his neck firmly and press him to yourself. Lean with your chest onto him from above and use all of your weight to push him down.</p>
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<p>If someone grabs you firmly from behind when you have turned your back to him, and you have your arms above his, quickly duck and lean forward to throw him over your head. Or use your hand to grab his leg below.</p>
 
<p>If someone grabs you firmly from behind when you have turned your back to him, and you have your arms above his, quickly duck and lean forward to throw him over your head. Or use your hand to grab his leg below.</p>
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<p>If someone grabs you from behind with his hands under yours, and if his palms are open, grab one of his fingers and he will have to let you go.</p>
 
<p>If someone grabs you from behind with his hands under yours, and if his palms are open, grab one of his fingers and he will have to let you go.</p>
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<p>If someone grabs you by the collar from the front and holds you firmly, go with your head under his arm and he will let you go. Or you can grab him by his thumb, which is also good.<ref>Dresden differs here</ref></p>
 
<p>If someone grabs you by the collar from the front and holds you firmly, go with your head under his arm and he will let you go. Or you can grab him by his thumb, which is also good.<ref>Dresden differs here</ref></p>
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<p>If someone grabs you by the collar from behind, turn towards him and go with your head under his arm. This is how you shall break free.</p>
 
<p>If someone grabs you by the collar from behind, turn towards him and go with your head under his arm. This is how you shall break free.</p>
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<p>If someone grabs you by the chest with both hands, thrust his right elbow upwards, turn, reach with your arm under his, and seize ahold of him across the body.</p>
 
<p>If someone grabs you by the chest with both hands, thrust his right elbow upwards, turn, reach with your arm under his, and seize ahold of him across the body.</p>
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<p>When you grab someone with your left hand by the muscle of his right arm and you push it back: if he shoots his right arm from the outside across your left arm and presses your hand onto his chest with strength, hit his right side with the elbow of the same arm that is being pressed. Duck, spring with your left leg behind his right leg, use your right hand to grab him by the bending of his knee and throw him to the ground.</p>
 
<p>When you grab someone with your left hand by the muscle of his right arm and you push it back: if he shoots his right arm from the outside across your left arm and presses your hand onto his chest with strength, hit his right side with the elbow of the same arm that is being pressed. Duck, spring with your left leg behind his right leg, use your right hand to grab him by the bending of his knee and throw him to the ground.</p>
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Revision as of 21:42, 10 August 2018

Ott Jud
Born date of birth unknown
Died 1448-52 (?)
Occupation Wrestling master
Ethnicity Jewish
Patron princes of Austria
Movement Fellowship of Liechtenauer
Genres Wrestling manual
Language Early New High German
Manuscript(s)
First printed
english edition		 Tobler, 2010
Concordance by Michael Chidester
Translations
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Ott Jud was a 15th century German wrestling master. His name signifies that he was a Jew, and several versions of his treatise (including the oldest one) state that he was baptized Christian.[1] Paulus Kal describes him as the wrestling master to the princes of Austria, and names him as a member of the Fellowship of Liechtenauer in 1470.[2] While Ott's precise lifetime is uncertain, he may have still been alive when Hans Talhoffer included the Gotha version in his fencing manual in ca. 1448, but seems to have died some time before the creation of the Rome version in 1452.[3]

Ott's treatise on grappling is repeated throughout all of the early German treatise compilations and seems to have become the dominant work on the subject within the Liechtenauer tradition.

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  1. ↑ The Gotha version, as well as the Augsburg, Vienna, and Glasgow versions, all use the term tauffter Jud, "baptized Jew".
  2. ↑ The Fellowship of Liechtenauer is recorded in three versions of Paulus Kal's treatise: MS 1825 (1460s), Cgm 1570 (ca. 1470), and MS KK5126 (1480s).
  3. ↑ His name lacks the traditional blessing on the dead in Talhoffer, but receives it in the Rome (see folio 100v).
  4. ↑ vor ringen
  5. ↑ mit ringen
  6. ↑ nach ringen
  7. ↑ das Wort »auf« ist nachträglich in anderer Handschrift klein über der Zeile zwischen den Wörtern eingefügt worden.
  8. ↑ Corrected from »deinem«.
  9. ↑ Corrected from »dein«.
  10. ↑ Korrigiert aus »rechtenn«.
  11. ↑ Korrigiert aus »rechtz«.
  12. ↑ Corrected from »dein«.
  13. ↑ There is obviously a mistake in the text. This is evident from the von Speyer version of the Ott text, which says to hold his left arm with your right. In the Goliath manuscript the relevant text says: "grab his right arm with your left hand firmly and come with your right hand to help your left". Taking into consideration the subsequent instruction on the direction of the turning through, the last record of Ott’s teaching seems to be the most logical and credible.
  14. ↑ wendt dich durch
  15. ↑ German has vallen - may be intended as "speciem".
  16. ↑ This play is placed before the previous counter in Rome and Krakow, but following Augsburg, it appears to be a second counter to the same action.
  17. ↑ This is clearly a scribal error for unndter. However, it is also clear that the text reads “vindter”. In this case, note that the following title “Unndten durchfarn” is spelled correctly.
  18. ↑ Salzburg and Vienna I insert three plays before this one, which are included below.Template:Error:add text
  19. ↑ corrected from »sein«
  20. ↑ nym Im das gewicht
  21. ↑ The Rome version places this text before the previous play.
  22. ↑ This is clearly a scribal error for unndter. However, it is also clear that the text reads “vindter”.
  23. ↑ Ribs.
  24. ↑ The phrase "seinen linngen arm auß, mit deiner rechten hannd, von oben nider, vnnd begreif ime damit" is struck through on MS Dresd.C.94 118r, but this manuscript's scribe seems to have not recognized that.
  25. ↑ Possibly: für was (wofür)?
  26. ↑ ‘ohne’
  27. ↑ ‘Stangenwerfen (==schieben) und Steinstoβen.
  28. ↑ Talhoffer mentions “stainwerffen vnd stainschüben” in his list of exercises within his own vorrede.
  29. ↑ Could this be a reference to the oldest printed Fightbook, Paurnfeindt’s ‘Ergrundung Ritterlicher kunst der Fechterey’ (Vienna 1516), whose author concludes with ‘auszug dizer Ritterlichen kunst’?
  30. ↑ ‘beiwohnt’.
  31. ↑ Paurenfeindt offers his students his Fechtbuch in the same hope, that “von tag czu tag czu merren vnd bessern” (from day to day, to increase and improve).
  32. ↑ This is the title given in Dresden. Gotha and Rome have Ein pruch wider das schrencken or "a counter to the barrier", while Glasgow gives Ein pruch wider Sterck, "a counter against strength".
  33. ↑ The words "In sein" are transposed, with marking indicating that they should be reversed.
  34. ↑ Schranck
  35. ↑ Should be "his right side" (against your left), which follows the preceding rhyme.
  36. ↑ S. S. 153, 43.
  37. ↑ Corrected from »seinem«
  38. ↑ The manuscript only says “vnd”.
  39. ↑ S. S. 153, 44.
  40. ↑ The above word “reiben” (rub, as in “drehen”, ‘turn’, ‘twist’) is clarified by the word “prechen”.
  41. ↑ S. S. 153, 45 and 46.
  42. ↑ Append: “linken Bein”.
  43. ↑ “deine”.
  44. ↑ S. S. 153, 47.
  45. ↑ An dieser Stelle bricht der Text ab.
  46. ↑ “klein (groβ).”
  47. ↑ Missing word, error: “Seite”.
  48. ↑ S. S. 154, 48.
  49. ↑ S. S. 154, 49.
  50. ↑ S. S. 154, 50.
  51. ↑ S. S. 155, 51.
  52. ↑ S. S. 155, 52.
  53. ↑ Dresden differs here
  54. ↑ “kannst du”.
  55. ↑ S.S. 155, 53.
  56. ↑ S. S. 155, 54.
  57. ↑ Possibly “und erfahe”, or simply “und fahe”.
  58. ↑ S.S. 155, 55.
  59. ↑ The words "seitten oder" are probably because of carelessness of the scribe.
  60. ↑ S. S. 156, 58.
  61. ↑ Interpret as “ihn”.
  62. ↑ Interpret as “Linken”.
  63. ↑ Read: “oberhalb des”.
  64. ↑ “Eile ihm”.
  65. ↑ Should be “denn”.
  66. ↑ Should be “euch”.
  67. ↑ “Wollen”.
  68. ↑ Which is what?
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